From Talk Radio to Lizards and Laughter – A Wild Ride with Michael DelGiorno

In this episode of Who Gave Jeff Allen a Podcast?, Jeff and Carollynn welcome Michael DelGiorno, a seasoned talk radio host with a four-decade career, a deep love for bulldogs and lizards, and a knack for making serious topics entertaining.

Michael shares stories from his 41 years in radio, including his time working alongside broadcasting giants like Glenn Beck and Neil Boortz. The conversation veers into unexpected (and hilarious) territories—his first and last stand-up comedy gig, why bulldogs cost him thousands in vet bills, and his secret obsession with pet chameleons.

🎙️ Topics Covered:
✅ The evolution of talk radio and Michael’s journey in the industry
✅ How faith and radio intersect in today’s culture
✅ His one and only experience bombing on stage as a stand-up comic
✅ The bizarre world of exotic pet lovers (yes, he drove his chameleon around town)
✅ Why bulldogs are both the best and worst dogs to own
✅ An off-the-rails discussion on Cybertrucks, eyebrows, and camp horror stories

This episode is fun, unpredictable, and full of unexpected wisdom, proving that even a talk radio veteran can be thrown off track when Carollynn fixates on his eyebrows.

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Transcript

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Speaker 3
Hey, everybody, this is Jeff Allen, and this is

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Speaker 4
is Carollynn Xavier.

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Speaker 1
Okay. That's me.

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Speaker 3
And, we are,

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Speaker 1
I don't even know what we're doing, but we're,

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Speaker 3
We're going to try this again.

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Speaker 1
We're at the,

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Speaker 3
A very good.

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Speaker 1
Friend of mine, we met a number of years ago. And the golfing buddy, it's a matter of fact, we had talked about maybe going out after this podcast to golf.

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Speaker 3
You are celebrating your 40th year in radio.

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Speaker 1
That's amazing to me because you don't look a day over 90.

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Speaker 2
It's actually 41 now. Yeah, and.

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Speaker 3
A remarkable 35th.

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Speaker 1
Year on talk radio. We'll get into that.

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Speaker 3
And, you have, raised over a million and a half dollars for Nest Rescue. You are the reason I donate.

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Speaker 1
To Nashville Rescue Mission. That's wonderful. I, I heard you and, raising money one time on the radio, and I thought, you know, my brother lived on the streets for a while, so, And, I continue to this day.

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Speaker 3
Tens of thousands for Special Forces.

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Speaker 1
Charitable Trust and the support of our Green Berets, which is great. Preborn mission. I also send them money, because of, your ads. He has featured.

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Speaker 3
Nationwide fill in.

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Speaker 1
Host for. These are Hall of Fame broadcasters like Neil Bortz, Glenn Beck, Michael Savage. And now you are on. And I am so proud of this man.

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Speaker 3
I remember.

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Speaker 1
A week off. We'll talk about this. Yeah. When when you were in between jobs and, this is this is cool.

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Speaker 3
You worked in New Orleans, DC. Like most radio people, you've.

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Speaker 1
Traveled around like a military brat in.

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Speaker 3
New Orleans, Washington, DC, Los Angeles, Kansas City, Oklahoma City, Tulsa, and for the last 16 years here in Music City. And your two.

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Speaker 1
Thousand and four book, Standing Up for What's Right, looks in depth at many issues that you talk about on the air. Your motto, and I love this so much information is so little understanding.

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Speaker 3
Yes, that's a problem. Yeah.

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Speaker 1
And you're known for your clever wit. We'll find out about that.

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Speaker 3
We'll hold that to it.

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Speaker 2
You were there the time. I write this, by the way, or. No. But you, you were there the first time I did stand up, remember?

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Speaker 3
Yes. You do it. Yeah. You opened, I didn't have.

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Speaker 2
Enough sense to go. Oh, I can't do that. And then the guy came up to me before and said, how many minutes do you plan to do? And I was like, I.

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Speaker 3
Don't know, 20?

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Speaker 2
How long do I have? Like, I don't know how it goes. You have 20 minutes of material. I said, I don't have any material. Know what time? Right. It's hard.

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Speaker 4
You're like, how much time I got until the traffic and weather, but.

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Speaker 2
You guys have all of this at the first time I did great. And then the second time I bombed. And then there was never a third.

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Speaker 3
Time, right? Yeah. Well, that's what somebody always.

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Speaker 1
Asks people in interviews. Have you ever bombed, you know, a 46 year career?

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Speaker 3
You want to go knock? I've been on fire.

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Speaker 1
Since I hit the stairs.

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Speaker 3
I said, you're not a comedian until you bomb like you're not a boxer until you get checked in the face. Once somebody checks in.

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Speaker 1
The face in the ring, you'll decide.

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Speaker 3
You know, I don't literally like this. Yeah. So when you humiliate yourself in front of her, well.

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Speaker 2
I wouldn't have had a bad experience. But it was in a small town. And when I got there, it was like, you know, the whole town was there. And that meant the whole every table had like five, six kids under seven years old. And and just right before I'm going on, I'm thinking of everything I was going to do.

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Speaker 2
And I'm like, well, I can't do any of that. I can't do that. So, I mean, I got off to a good start because I spent the first eight minutes just ripping their town and everything that I observed. And then when I went to get into material, I was trying to edit and it was just going nowhere. Then you start getting that feeling that you never forget.

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Speaker 2
And then I've just never done it again since. I don't know why.

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Speaker 3
You don't need it, but.

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Speaker 2
Yeah, I did it one time in the Bahamas. Really? In my 20s, I won the talent contest.

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Speaker 3
Well, tell I did that. Well, I.

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Speaker 2
Did everything on the sandals resort.

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Speaker 3
Who were you up against.

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Speaker 1
In the talent?

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Speaker 2
It was a really good singer from Canada. I mean, this woman could sing like Celine Dion.

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Speaker 3
I thought for sure I was her name. Celine? No.

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Speaker 2
But I thought for sure I was going to lose, and I didn't, but I did, because the pool was really ridiculously cold. So I did this whole Titanic bit. If everybody in.

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Speaker 4
The pool.

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Speaker 2
Hates so much, so you stay down the raft, honey. You know, everybody was so great. And then I was picking apart the restaurants and the service. And so, I mean, I'm more of an ad clipper. And then when I got in a room like that, I was like, wow, I was self-conscious. I mean.

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Speaker 3
As.

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Speaker 1
Carolyn will probably attest to this, that, ad libbing comedy, when it's on and going, oh, it's great.

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Speaker 2
And when it's bad, it's bad.

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Speaker 3
When it's.

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Speaker 4
It's so bad.

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Speaker 3
There's that there is no middle ground. Yeah.

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Speaker 1
No either rocking it or they're just kind of going.

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Speaker 2
I even saw it even with brilliant people like Robin Williams. I've sat nights where Robin wasn't really on and it was it was out there.

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Speaker 4
You're just talking about it and it's making me anxious about like all of the like, memories are coming back. I did this show one time and they were like, whatever you do, don't talk to the ladies left of stage. And because I guess her husband just died and her girls wanted to take her for a fun night out a week later on, like a week later, I might have been in bed.

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Speaker 4
And so there's a table of girls over here, and then there's some ladies right in front of me, and I go to talk to the ladies right in front of me. I'm like, you know, just screwing around. And there she's like, well, actually I'm here. Yes. My husband designed. And I was like, no, you're supposed to be over there at the cafe.

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Speaker 4
Two of you say, oh, listen,

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Speaker 2
There's some bad water in that door. We all.

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Speaker 4
Went.

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Speaker 3
Hey, Caroline, we all look for niches.

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Speaker 1
In this business.

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Speaker 3
Yours happens to be the grieving widow.

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Speaker 2
We stand up at the way and then.

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Speaker 4
After the show because, like, it totally threw me. I didn't have the years of experience and navigate myself out of that one. It totally threw me off. And then, after the show. So it was in Jackson, Tennessee, I think. And then some people were like, well, we drove from Texas to come see you. I was like.

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Speaker 2
I'm sorry, what.

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Speaker 3
The fuck was.

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Speaker 4
This? Oh.

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Speaker 2
No, there is it's like, that and I have this problem and I have this when I go to speak places as well. I mean, there can be 5500 people and they're all into what I'm doing, but I can see one arms folded.

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Speaker 3
Right, yawning.

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Speaker 4
Oh, yeah. You never forget them.

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Speaker 2
And I, I'm obsessed with them. Yeah. I spend the rest of the night trying to win them. And so, you know, the minute that starts happening, it's, it's.

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Speaker 4
Weird how the room is dark and the lighting is the same, but that person seems more illuminated than everyone else. It's like the Lord's light is just like, well, I don't know about that joke. Like, right.

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Speaker 3
I was just at the Improv.

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Speaker 1
In, Kansas City.

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Speaker 3
And.

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Speaker 1
Okay, it was, Houston on the day that the Chiefs was playing the, oh, one of the Texans now the Houston Texans. And I'm watching some guys not laughing at all. I realize, like, are.

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Speaker 3
You watching the game? Then he goes, you watch your wife, but you are there to spend time with you. I sit with them and they're like seven other guys there they go. Great.

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Speaker 2
It's so the opposite of what I do. You know, I, I'm talking into a microphone. I don't see anybody. I don't get any reaction. I mean, I get five, ten minutes later, you get emails or phone calls that are reacting. Most of the reaction is like years later, somebody walks up to you, hey, I was listening.

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Speaker 2
You changed my life that day when you said this. Whereas comedy, you're right there. And and the the pay is, you know, if you're a chimp, throw me some nuts, throw me a laugh. And if you don't get it, then you're just, like, thrown off by that. So I think it's kind of an eternal opposite of what I do.

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Speaker 2
But it was it was fun. I mean, that night was for charity. And when you actually said, yeah, that was a great set. And I said, do you think I could go pro? And you would? Absolutely not. I think.

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Speaker 1
It's.

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Speaker 3
Know you were talking about you.

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Speaker 4
Should stay on the air.

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Speaker 2
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Don't quit your day job.

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Speaker 3
That's the talent.

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Speaker 1
Contest. Years and years ago, I think it was before I was married. I was in Fort Lauderdale and I was broke, and someone said, there's a there's a talent contest that pays $75 or something. Can be cash money.

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Speaker 3
If I can win.

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Speaker 1
And, there was a.

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Speaker 3
Young.

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Speaker 1
Girl there, Jewish girl with her Jewish mother from Palm Beach, and she sang Olivia Newton-John. So let's get physical. Oh, she was dressed in the sweat suit. She had the head, and the curtain was rising, and she didn't wait for it to rise. She just started singing.

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Speaker 3
Okay, okay, let's get physical. I'm telling you, if she had gone on as a comedian, I wouldn't.

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Speaker 2
You have said. But because she was a.

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Speaker 3
She was a singer. Anyway, I win the 75 bucks.

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Speaker 1
I just said that to her and her mother. I know she's extremely talented, but in the comedy field.

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Speaker 4
That's like an SNL sketch.

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Speaker 3
I know it was. It was, you know, the I love.

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Speaker 4
The.

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Speaker 3
Stage mother. They call them stage mothers.

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Speaker 1
That's what her she was. Oh, she's she's my she's the most talented thing.

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Speaker 2
It's just weird when you go to the sandals, you just get obsessed with earning these points. After a while, I'm either engaged or you don't engage. And, And that was like the second to last night, and it was worth. I don't remember how many points. Oh, and so I did, but I would honestly tell you this girl was beautiful.

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Speaker 2
Sang literally as good as. Oh, you.

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Speaker 4
Made points off your sense talent. Yeah, well.

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Speaker 2
I got a shirt and that mouth, but yeah, that's what got me my sandals. Just because I was short.

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Speaker 1
Well, it's a heck of a lot more than we're going to give you today. I know, I.

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Speaker 2
Well, I got an exploding golf.

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Speaker 3
Ball, which is going.

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Speaker 2
Back to the introduction, I think.

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Speaker 3
I think I mentioned your last name and Michael, those journal. Yes. The.

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Speaker 1
Pizza.

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Speaker 3
By the way, that was the coolest thing you got. You fooled me. You had a Trump impersonator. And every Friday we still do. Pizza man.

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Speaker 2
Pizza boy, pizza boy.

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Speaker 3
And he is so good.

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Speaker 2
So right.

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Speaker 3
Me, I said to Tammy, how did Wow Journal get Trump?

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Speaker 2
It's a no. It's a problem because, he sounds so much like Donald Trump. He thinks like Donald Trump. He improvs and acts like.

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Speaker 3
There's a rhythm, the cadence of.

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Speaker 2
Everything. So everybody's convinced it's Donald Trump. And it doesn't matter how many times afterwards like, oh, that's the brilliant, Sean Farage. And if you want him to message it but they don't hear it, they just think it's Trump. And then, you know, Trump says so many outrageous things, you know. So but when we launched the show, we were just going to be on and Nashville then before we launched, oh, it's going to be Nashville, Tulsa, Oklahoma City, that it was.

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Speaker 2
Oh, it's going to be Memphis, Nashville, Tulsa, Oklahoma City. So then we started on iHeart, and Sean would come on every Friday, because it was during the campaign.

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Speaker 4
And does he do shows as a Trump impersonator?

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Speaker 2
He does. He's he's been with Trump. He doesn't look anything.

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Speaker 4
Like is it possible that I saw him at the Redneck Riviera on Broadway, do a show with Michael?

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Speaker 3
Loftis?

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Speaker 4
Yeah.

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Speaker 2
I don't think so. Well, I don't know. He he's from New York, so.

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Speaker 4
Oh, I think so. I think, yeah, it was until.

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Speaker 2
Later. But he doesn't look like Trump, but he sounds just like him. And of course then the show just keeps growing and cities. And we had a Tampa then you know then we got on the West Coast. We did LA, San Francisco. So the show is exploding. And then we joined premiere. So now we're syndicated with Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity.

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Speaker 2
So now I think I got all these new cities every week thinking the same thing. This is really Donald Trump. And and then he calls it.

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Speaker 3
So for San Francisco, they're all triggered and getting pills. You know else China.

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Speaker 2
I have a national show. And now everybody's calling me pizza boy because this guy on Friday.

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Speaker 4
That's my white, what outlandish thing did he say they got you in the most trouble?

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Speaker 2
The Trump impersonator. Oh, gosh, that's a great question. He keeps it. He is a very, very. Well, he did the, the one that's coming to mind is he always brings up how Donald or how Joe Biden pooped his pants with the Pope. And, you.

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Speaker 3
Know, I would say that's three.

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Speaker 1
Times fast. Yeah.

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Speaker 2
And then he would do it in Spanish. And that was really funny, you know, let's see, I didn't do the whole thing. So, you know, one day I was just googling and it's true. So it's a whole new story. But the Vatican would not confirm or deny, which was like confirming. So most of the stuff that comes out of his mouth is pretty factual.

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Speaker 2
It just seems shocking because he says it. But compared to Donald Trump. But no, he doesn't get me in any trouble. He really doesn't.

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Speaker 4
Let's go ahead.

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Speaker 3
It's funny you said I had a friend.

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Speaker 1
Of mine that was working at a rehab center in Tennessee. Won't mention the name, but, I heard Anthony Weiner was at that rehab center. Remember when Wiener went through all that stuff? So, anyway, he sent me a picture. Wiener on a horse. He goes, I cannot.

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Speaker 3
Confirm or deny the facility.

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Speaker 4
But he's doing equine therapy. He got a quick therapy to.

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Speaker 1
Yeah, to stop sending pictures of his job.

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Speaker 2
And it obviously worked. He's thinking about.

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Speaker 4
Now. He's just sending pictures of horse junk.

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Speaker 3
Well, I like this.

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Speaker 2
We're still on the bio. It's weird. Oh, you just introduced me.

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Speaker 3
Wait, we're 40 minutes in, I know. Well, hey. Yeah.

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Speaker 2
No pacing ourselves.

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Speaker 3
No, this is you do your interviews your way. The fact that I do get to try a podcast, you have the 1850, man.

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Speaker 2
Actually, we. I started that with David Zanardi. And then when we went to premiere, we had lost.

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Speaker 4
In the contract.

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Speaker 2
Yeah, I got spun off. So, but David still does it. It's a great podcast I encourage people to listen to at 1850 Main street.com. But yeah, there needs to be.

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Speaker 3
The 1850s that were the.

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Speaker 1
Address where you.

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Speaker 3
I don't want it. No.

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Speaker 2
When we originally started the.

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Speaker 3
If you put the address in your title, I mean, your docs and you.

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Speaker 2
Put your address on the street. No. No. When we started it, we were we were thinking, we were on a golf course one time, and David looked at me and he goes, it's 1850 and we're headed towards the Civil War. You got ten years to stop it. What do you do? And know now that neither of us could really you know, we went through all the issues which are statements of problems to overcome.

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Speaker 2
None of us really had a better answer than the way it played out. And then I said, you know what, David? It's not much different right now because at that point, I'm looking at everything that's going on. I go, we might be ten years away from a civil war. This gets any more crazy and violent, what are we going to do to stop it?

00:13:57:20 - 00:14:06:22
Speaker 2
And then the podcast in the name 1850, we we I think towards the beginning we explained it and then afterwards we just like people not knowing.

00:14:06:24 - 00:14:07:01
Speaker 3
Yeah.

00:14:07:01 - 00:14:08:04
Speaker 2
And it's figuring it out.

00:14:08:05 - 00:14:08:29
Speaker 3
They can look it up.

00:14:09:01 - 00:14:22:20
Speaker 2
But America was at a really, really, outrageous crossroad. And I think with miraculously come out the other end. So if there's a doomsday clock, it's been pushed back. So maybe I'll start the next podcast, 1840 and we'll take it from there.

00:14:22:25 - 00:14:25:14
Speaker 3
But it's interesting to me a big idea.

00:14:25:17 - 00:14:27:08
Speaker 2
I like that you like my ideas.

00:14:27:09 - 00:14:28:03
Speaker 3
As someone.

00:14:28:03 - 00:14:28:28
Speaker 2
He doesn't.

00:14:29:03 - 00:14:30:06
Speaker 3
As someone.

00:14:30:09 - 00:14:31:24
Speaker 4
Who,

00:14:31:26 - 00:14:33:18
Speaker 3
You know, I'm always fascinated.

00:14:33:18 - 00:14:40:22
Speaker 1
When I talk to pastors because every week they got to write a new 45 minute message.

00:14:40:24 - 00:14:41:29
Speaker 3
Me, I'm my goal.

00:14:41:29 - 00:14:43:00
Speaker 1
Is a minute a week. If I.

00:14:43:00 - 00:14:43:12
Speaker 3
Can write a.

00:14:43:12 - 00:14:45:00
Speaker 1
Minute of comedy a week and.

00:14:45:02 - 00:14:47:22
Speaker 3
52 minutes, I mean, that's the goal. That was Carlin's.

00:14:47:22 - 00:14:57:05
Speaker 1
Method. And I thought, you know, that'll work for me. I'm sure the problem is I go seven, eight, nine, ten, 12, 15 weeks without writing anything. So now I got to write 15 minutes in a week.

00:14:57:11 - 00:14:59:14
Speaker 2
So you pretty much try to have all new material every year.

00:14:59:15 - 00:15:05:18
Speaker 3
No, I you know what? I just keep adding the things. And I know by the clock.

00:15:05:18 - 00:15:17:18
Speaker 1
How much stuff I've added because I used to be at this particular point at 55 minutes and now I'm not anywhere near that, which means I've added 10 minutes or 12 minutes of of stuff.

00:15:17:20 - 00:15:19:24
Speaker 3
But three hours a day. We we've kind.

00:15:19:24 - 00:15:23:10
Speaker 1
Of talked about this a little bit off the air, but,

00:15:23:12 - 00:15:24:15
Speaker 3
Your show prep, you.

00:15:24:15 - 00:15:29:08
Speaker 1
Hear that radio guy say show prep, are you alone? Do you have a team? Do you?

00:15:29:10 - 00:15:45:02
Speaker 2
I was always alone. I mean, obviously with premiere. Now I have a, producer who's does all the. If I need sound effects, if I need, audio clips, all the rejoin music, all that stuff. He he works to send the promos. I cut him, and then he disperses.

00:15:45:02 - 00:15:46:00
Speaker 3
We have Lee Harden.

00:15:46:04 - 00:15:48:02
Speaker 2
You have Lee. Well, that's actually.

00:15:48:05 - 00:15:48:29
Speaker 4
Who, by the way.

00:15:49:00 - 00:15:52:13
Speaker 2
Is an extraordinary comedian. And why isn't he on this show?

00:15:52:15 - 00:15:53:18
Speaker 3
Because he's doing this because.

00:15:53:18 - 00:15:58:22
Speaker 4
He's not a girl. And they needed a young girl because that's what attracts double audiences.

00:15:58:25 - 00:16:01:02
Speaker 3
That's right. I wanted a millennial point.

00:16:01:02 - 00:16:03:05
Speaker 2
Here I am wearing a hoodie. I should have showed some skin. Yeah.

00:16:03:10 - 00:16:05:24
Speaker 3
I want to get a millennial point of view because.

00:16:05:24 - 00:16:09:02
Speaker 1
Millennial, I have two millennial sons and they are confusing to me.

00:16:09:04 - 00:16:32:09
Speaker 2
I didn't answer to answer your question, if you had to prep, you know, using the pastor's analogy, if every every time I had to do a sermon, I had to sit and think of a 45 minute sermon that'd be one thing. I'm of the firm opinion that you can only make God known as you know him. And if you know him and and you're yielded to him and His Holy Spirit is living through you, the sermons just they kind of happen.

00:16:32:09 - 00:16:49:01
Speaker 2
And then you fill in the facts or the analogies or, but if you made the goal, I want to have a great sermon. Yeah, that would be hard. We don't do that. I mean, we're obviously aware of things. There are some shortcut, behind every. We use this expression. Behind every headline is a story. Behind every story.

00:16:49:01 - 00:17:07:06
Speaker 2
There's so much to talk about. The truth is, behind every headline is an issue. An issue that we have failed to solve because we we love to debate things or divide each other over things. But we're not good at uniting and solving things. So these issues don't change. Just the thing happens. So, even the plane crash, for example.

00:17:07:06 - 00:17:30:28
Speaker 2
I mean, you could you could make a case that the the NTSB exists because accidents don't happen. Something went wrong. And they will make the determination and it's going to be the plane mechanical. It's going to be the pilots, or it's going to be the people in the tower, or it's going to be atmospheric. And then they pinpoint the 1 or 2 things that we can really learn from, maybe a system that needs to be invented or developed, and then they make a recommendation.

00:17:31:00 - 00:17:50:23
Speaker 2
And the truth is, nobody ever does a thing with the recommendations. So it's funny, I'm watching America following this crash and believe me, there's enough human loss there. And I'm a very empathetic person. So I'm thinking that the morning after the crash, I had pictures of all the kids, before we could ever say their name or release any of it.

00:17:50:26 - 00:18:06:07
Speaker 2
So I go on there and 5:00 in the morning and my heart's broken. Mean, I'm looking at this one. The one girl is more gorgeous than the boy who's cuter than any boy you've ever seen. And they're talented. But the truth of the matter is, is what's going to unfold for America is kind of like OJ was that case.

00:18:06:07 - 00:18:24:22
Speaker 2
People started following the law. How the NTSB will come to conclusions, make recommendations, and no one will do them. But, you know, that's going to be the frustrating thing. Well, it's the same thing with issues. So it's not I mean, it's a lot of reading. I think if I sat down and prepped, it would be three hours at least.

00:18:24:24 - 00:18:28:21
Speaker 2
So roughly an hour of prep for every hour you're on the air.

00:18:28:24 - 00:18:34:17
Speaker 4
Is there sometimes, like the plane crash where you prepped and then it's all scrapped and it's like, oh, well, this.

00:18:34:19 - 00:18:36:06
Speaker 3
Guy's there's something else that.

00:18:36:07 - 00:18:36:10
Speaker 2
I.

00:18:36:16 - 00:18:54:05
Speaker 4
Also, I don't want to interrupt, but I'm really struggling to focus. Do you get your eyebrows done? They are phenomenal. And here's a nice ass eyebrows. I can not focus on anything cause that's my only good quality there. The best eyebrows. Those eyebrows need to be on video, not on radio.

00:18:54:05 - 00:18:56:28
Speaker 3
The A.D.D. thing, I mean.

00:18:57:00 - 00:19:01:10
Speaker 4
Like, I can't focus because I was like, I wonder if he tweezers some, maybe get some bloggers I would.

00:19:01:10 - 00:19:04:24
Speaker 2
Get, I tweeze a little bit right here. So I don't get it.

00:19:04:25 - 00:19:06:07
Speaker 4
Oh, this. Phenomenal.

00:19:06:08 - 00:19:07:02
Speaker 2
But yeah, nothing else.

00:19:07:04 - 00:19:08:09
Speaker 4
They really are the.

00:19:08:12 - 00:19:09:11
Speaker 2
Five colors to our.

00:19:09:12 - 00:19:10:03
Speaker 3
Oh it's match. Yeah.

00:19:10:03 - 00:19:14:25
Speaker 4
They're beautiful. They're highlighted. They're ombré I don't really know.

00:19:14:25 - 00:19:15:24
Speaker 2
That was God's doing.

00:19:15:26 - 00:19:17:10
Speaker 3
Yeah Tammy used to dye mine.

00:19:17:10 - 00:19:19:00
Speaker 1
But then I look like Groucho Marx.

00:19:19:01 - 00:19:20:18
Speaker 2
Yeah I'm not playing that game.

00:19:20:18 - 00:19:21:27
Speaker 3
A couple of categories I had.

00:19:22:02 - 00:19:39:17
Speaker 2
So I like how we're getting A.D.D.. So I did. I wasn't gray for the longest time. And then, two things. One, I went through a long battle with my mom, with cancer and had to care for her. That was a lot of stress. And then I had an issue with my daughter when she was a teenager.

00:19:39:19 - 00:19:41:01
Speaker 2
That one.

00:19:41:03 - 00:19:52:19
Speaker 4
I went, oh my gosh, what's happening to me? I didn't get any sleep. That's why I have no personality. Teenagers are gonna kill you. Look, I woke up yesterday. Black hair teenager. Yesterday gray done.

00:19:52:21 - 00:20:00:18
Speaker 2
And I went gray in a straight line. So, you know, it was like, almost from a distance. You'd look at me and it looks like I had a Kim Jong UN haircut.

00:20:00:22 - 00:20:01:09
Speaker 1
Oh, wow.

00:20:01:10 - 00:20:02:18
Speaker 4
That is so stylish.

00:20:02:19 - 00:20:04:11
Speaker 2
Well, so I so I die.

00:20:04:14 - 00:20:06:12
Speaker 3
He killed the barber. I died it.

00:20:06:12 - 00:20:16:13
Speaker 2
A couple of times, actually. My wife dead is one guy. My wife did my hair during Covid. It made me Kim Jong un, but. So I dyed it. And then I just thought, I ain't messing with that. It looks so.

00:20:16:15 - 00:20:20:09
Speaker 4
We killed him with his own clippers.

00:20:20:11 - 00:20:30:07
Speaker 2
That's about you. Are you going to say I don't think it's staying down, Okay. We had to deal with the dog part. Yes. Now we're going to deal with waterboarding.

00:20:30:12 - 00:20:32:26
Speaker 3
Spit all over in the co-host.

00:20:32:28 - 00:20:35:26
Speaker 4
Yeah. If you spit on me too hard, I'll lose my eyebrows.

00:20:35:28 - 00:20:37:09
Speaker 3
Eyebrows? Yeah.

00:20:37:11 - 00:20:39:00
Speaker 2
But no, I've never touched my brother. Thank you for.

00:20:39:00 - 00:20:40:05
Speaker 4
Not for the phenomenal.

00:20:40:05 - 00:20:41:20
Speaker 2
Oh, I'm so sorry. Sharing it. Yours.

00:20:41:20 - 00:20:49:15
Speaker 4
Oh, go on, I do. I'm on cooking today because sometimes I get a little shaky hands because I get nervous. I was late. You can always tell when.

00:20:49:15 - 00:20:50:14
Speaker 2
I'm late.

00:20:50:17 - 00:20:52:17
Speaker 3
Getting some of those podcasts.

00:20:52:17 - 00:20:54:15
Speaker 1
We done. Well. You just look surprised. The whole.

00:20:54:15 - 00:21:03:18
Speaker 3
Show. I just I just watched you messing with the guest that I've just realized. You drew them up here. Oh, if.

00:21:03:18 - 00:21:08:11
Speaker 4
You ever bring guest on some time, would you? Are not. I'll do it. Like. Yeah.

00:21:08:11 - 00:21:12:08
Speaker 3
Just draw some excitement unfurled. You know, he was talking.

00:21:12:08 - 00:21:15:12
Speaker 1
About some deep stuff you could have drew on a furrowed brow.

00:21:15:14 - 00:21:18:16
Speaker 2
You can't make those. You just always have the same look.

00:21:18:16 - 00:21:19:04
Speaker 3
Yeah. That's it.

00:21:19:06 - 00:21:20:13
Speaker 4
Yeah, that's the Botox.

00:21:20:13 - 00:21:23:11
Speaker 3
That's what I 35.

00:21:23:13 - 00:21:25:14
Speaker 4
Oh yeah. It started at 26.

00:21:25:17 - 00:21:26:08
Speaker 3
Oh, wow.

00:21:26:08 - 00:21:31:11
Speaker 4
Oh, yeah. That's why I was really moved by what you were saying about the plane crash. You just couldn't see it.

00:21:31:13 - 00:21:44:03
Speaker 2
Oh, you were. No, but I mean, so everything is an issue and then it's, you know, really, I think successful talk show hosts, they arrive at the mic with it or without it. And you have a unique way of looking at life. I think you see that.

00:21:44:03 - 00:21:45:13
Speaker 1
I think the same stories.

00:21:45:13 - 00:21:46:13
Speaker 3
It's almost like comedy.

00:21:46:13 - 00:21:49:14
Speaker 1
There's only so many topics you can talk about. Yeah. So it's your.

00:21:49:14 - 00:21:50:29
Speaker 3
Unique point of view? Yeah.

00:21:51:06 - 00:21:57:28
Speaker 4
That's what I was thinking about when you were talking about the passengers. They can't really go off premise. What do you mean?

00:21:58:00 - 00:22:06:19
Speaker 3
The gospel. Oh it happened. Oh, yeah. It happens all the time. Jesus was a socialist. You didn't know that? I don't know the communist. Yeah.

00:22:06:24 - 00:22:16:11
Speaker 4
I always wonder is like, they're just like, here we go with the lady at the well again this time of year. Yeah, I think so.

00:22:16:11 - 00:22:19:18
Speaker 3
Anyway, I was, I was, I had a saying when I.

00:22:19:21 - 00:22:20:12
Speaker 1
You know.

00:22:20:15 - 00:22:22:06
Speaker 3
When you do radio interviews.

00:22:22:09 - 00:22:30:21
Speaker 1
And are difficult, which is why I like the long form. Yeah. Because you get a chance to know people. But you're doing 3 to 5 minutes.

00:22:30:23 - 00:22:32:05
Speaker 3
So I sometimes.

00:22:32:05 - 00:22:36:28
Speaker 1
I do these newscast shows and I don't really do politics in my show.

00:22:36:28 - 00:22:38:07
Speaker 3
But so I said.

00:22:38:10 - 00:22:49:15
Speaker 1
At one point I said, I used to think we were going through the age of hyperbole, which was all the clickbait, you know, the headline was everything. So the more sensational you make it. And then I think.

00:22:49:17 - 00:22:50:07
Speaker 3
I call it the.

00:22:50:07 - 00:23:02:02
Speaker 1
Age of Pilot. Now, it's because when Jesus walked out and said, those that know, hear me know on the side of truth and pilots, what is truth? And I think that's where we're at today is just.

00:23:02:05 - 00:23:10:20
Speaker 2
Well, there's truth, but there is an awakening. I think America's figured out what's broke. I don't think they figured out what's right yet. Right. They know what's wrong, but they haven't figured out what's right.

00:23:10:20 - 00:23:12:13
Speaker 3
It's almost like you got this thing in the back of your head.

00:23:12:13 - 00:23:18:03
Speaker 1
Something's not right. Yeah. You know, and, I,

00:23:18:06 - 00:23:19:22
Speaker 2
There's been a narrative shift that.

00:23:19:22 - 00:23:20:18
Speaker 3
There's this.

00:23:20:20 - 00:23:41:15
Speaker 1
I always look at the the law of not contradiction. You know, two things that say the opposite thing about the same thing. Both can't be true. So when you look at the the media and you listen to and I do listen to as much of a variety as I can, and you hear the contradictions, is it frustrating for you?

00:23:41:15 - 00:23:44:04
Speaker 1
Do you even pay attention? Because,

00:23:44:06 - 00:23:44:23
Speaker 3
A lot of.

00:23:44:28 - 00:23:48:24
Speaker 1
Talk radio people play clips from other shows.

00:23:48:26 - 00:23:49:11
Speaker 3
To show.

00:23:49:11 - 00:23:56:21
Speaker 1
The contradiction. Does it bother you, when it's so factually wrong?

00:23:56:24 - 00:23:58:13
Speaker 3
I mean, you you have such a.

00:23:58:13 - 00:23:59:12
Speaker 1
Good nature about.

00:23:59:12 - 00:24:03:11
Speaker 3
You, you know that. You know, I used to love.

00:24:03:11 - 00:24:12:11
Speaker 1
Levin because Levin would just go off on these, you know, tirades and think, oh my God, he's lost. And then he'd go heckled line.

00:24:12:14 - 00:24:20:23
Speaker 2
And you know what? It can be, if I'm in the truth business, not in the results business. That's something you got to remind yourself of.

00:24:20:24 - 00:24:23:04
Speaker 3
Yeah. How much is that cost you? Because you are very.

00:24:23:04 - 00:24:24:15
Speaker 1
Openly, a.

00:24:24:16 - 00:24:31:23
Speaker 3
Biblical worldview. You're you're one of the one of the I, you know, you start to listen to your knowledge of Israel. Yeah. And how it fit in.

00:24:31:23 - 00:24:33:11
Speaker 1
Biblical and and times and.

00:24:33:11 - 00:24:39:13
Speaker 3
Stuff. Yeah. So that that cost you anything from the people that were hiring you.

00:24:39:16 - 00:24:56:04
Speaker 2
You know, I, I would just take issue with the way the questions framed. I could give you specific answers. I could give you vague answers. The truth of the matter is, didn't cost me anything. It's all been paid for. Everything I have, God has given me, you know, that from the last year and a half, right?

00:24:56:05 - 00:25:18:05
Speaker 2
So, I think if I were to be doing it gratuitously for, you know, to try to. Right, have gain in the flesh, I think. Yeah. Would cost me everything. But if you're going as God leads and you're yielding to his spirit moment by moment, you just don't make those mistakes. But yeah, in the long run, you could say it cost me potentially even my last job.

00:25:18:07 - 00:25:22:23
Speaker 3
Who cares what I think? I think, I think is over sports I think yes.

00:25:22:23 - 00:25:38:03
Speaker 2
Yeah, right. I think God had something bigger and better. So I don't think it did. And I don't ever focus on that. So and I don't really focus on everyone else. I mean, your morning show was really designed to be about the audience. You know, I think we got enough people on the air with big egos pontificating. Listen to me, listen to me.

00:25:38:03 - 00:25:53:17
Speaker 2
I'm smart. You're not. I'll tell you what to think. And I think that's insulting because I think America just proved it. It can think on its own. It could figure things out on its own. So I'm more about taking all this information. They're getting bombarded with and asking some questions. I really love it when they have their own.

00:25:53:25 - 00:25:55:09
Speaker 2
I feel like I'm looking at him and not you.

00:25:55:09 - 00:25:56:02
Speaker 4
And that's okay.

00:25:56:03 - 00:25:58:16
Speaker 2
No, because you're missing out on my I was I can tell.

00:25:58:17 - 00:26:04:00
Speaker 3
Obviously, your eyebrows are distracting her, so I'm just grateful for not letting God because we need.

00:26:04:01 - 00:26:05:01
Speaker 4
Her. Right. The word.

00:26:05:01 - 00:26:05:28
Speaker 3
We need, you know, at.

00:26:05:28 - 00:26:09:13
Speaker 2
60, at 60, nobody finds me attractive, let alone have.

00:26:09:13 - 00:26:12:03
Speaker 3
Ever found find you attract just my eyebrows.

00:26:12:03 - 00:26:15:12
Speaker 2
I just want the eyebrows. Right. All right. But.

00:26:15:15 - 00:26:18:08
Speaker 4
The other thing for Indian dudes, she's real in the eyebrows.

00:26:18:08 - 00:26:20:24
Speaker 3
She's into the eyebrows.

00:26:20:27 - 00:26:25:11
Speaker 4
No. You can. I'll look. You look at me. I'll look this way. They'll never know.

00:26:25:13 - 00:26:28:03
Speaker 3
Okay.

00:26:28:06 - 00:26:41:23
Speaker 2
Oh, I don't know where to look. I don't know, but. So I don't really focus on what other people are doing. I think when people have their own discovery, it's just like, you know, you can go to a sermon and a pastor can teach you something or say something, and you can remember what he said. And it was really cool.

00:26:41:25 - 00:26:55:23
Speaker 2
But, you know, the most profound, getting back to your point, this is what never happens with the Bible because it's a living word. And so every time you read it, when I was going through my rough time about a year and a half ago, it was little things like, God so loved the world he gave his only son.

00:26:55:23 - 00:27:05:06
Speaker 2
I mean, it was the, you know, you'll read something and then that's devastating revelation and not so I would rather lead someone to their own self-discovery than to tell them how to think like me.

00:27:05:06 - 00:27:05:29
Speaker 1
Absolutely.

00:27:05:29 - 00:27:07:01
Speaker 2
Yeah. So I.

00:27:07:01 - 00:27:09:00
Speaker 3
Don't I don't like the way you said your morning.

00:27:09:00 - 00:27:14:13
Speaker 1
Show. I didn't mention that. That's that's what you call your show. It's your morning show. Because you tell.

00:27:14:15 - 00:27:31:17
Speaker 2
I have always hated it being about me. So. And then there were times for, like, 25 of the 30, no. 30 of the 35 years and talk radio. I was the only person on the show, but I still hated, you know, I would never refer to myself third person or this is Michael Jordan. No shit. I just hated that.

00:27:31:23 - 00:27:32:16
Speaker 3
So this is you.

00:27:32:17 - 00:27:35:27
Speaker 4
Michael, and my team guy. The belts like that.

00:27:35:28 - 00:27:41:05
Speaker 3
You ever do the morning thing with, like, I think this is, I'm Michael and this is I chuckles. I did it.

00:27:41:07 - 00:27:49:21
Speaker 2
With my father. Well, we we joke about we wanted to do, What what's the name we gave ourselves, Burpee and something I.

00:27:49:25 - 00:27:51:06
Speaker 4
It's always something like that. Yeah, I.

00:27:51:11 - 00:28:02:02
Speaker 2
Know I did a morning show. My dad. That was fun. My dad was very successful. And talk radio and and radio in general in Chicago. And and then he was on, in the mornings in New Orleans. And then we did a morning.

00:28:02:05 - 00:28:03:09
Speaker 3
Of what year?

00:28:03:11 - 00:28:10:26
Speaker 2
He was on wind from 1970 to 1977, and he was on Q 101 in the early 80s.

00:28:10:26 - 00:28:12:09
Speaker 1
Probably listen to him, man.

00:28:12:11 - 00:28:14:24
Speaker 4
So that's how you got into it then? Your dad family?

00:28:14:27 - 00:28:24:12
Speaker 2
Well, my dad was in radio. I was never going to be in radio. I was going be a pastor, believe it or not. And my Bible college didn't open. Because of a scandal.

00:28:24:14 - 00:28:25:20
Speaker 4
It always was a scandal.

00:28:25:20 - 00:28:26:18
Speaker 2
Was a scandal in the.

00:28:26:18 - 00:28:26:27
Speaker 1
Church.

00:28:26:27 - 00:28:29:06
Speaker 4
And there's always so many scandals.

00:28:29:06 - 00:28:36:01
Speaker 2
Involving Martin Gorman and Jimmy Swaggart. So, next thing you know, I was doing radio and. And that was it. I do remember.

00:28:36:03 - 00:28:38:16
Speaker 4
Now you're just shepherding a larger flock.

00:28:38:16 - 00:28:39:29
Speaker 2
This is pretty much true.

00:28:40:01 - 00:28:42:29
Speaker 4
And you don't have any, student loan debt, so.

00:28:43:02 - 00:28:46:14
Speaker 2
No, but I haven't figured out how to do an offering. I gotta figure that out on.

00:28:46:16 - 00:28:48:27
Speaker 4
Patreon, that's what. But at the till.

00:28:49:00 - 00:28:51:01
Speaker 2
We could do that. But no. So I wasn't going to be. And then.

00:28:51:01 - 00:28:51:23
Speaker 3
I had a coat on.

00:28:51:23 - 00:28:53:06
Speaker 1
Your forehead, man. And the people.

00:28:53:06 - 00:28:56:04
Speaker 2
Couldn't. But the radio been very, very good to me, so I'm not complaining.

00:28:56:04 - 00:28:59:00
Speaker 3
You are. Yeah. A year and a half ago, we were on the golf.

00:28:59:00 - 00:29:02:04
Speaker 1
Course and you were kind of in between gigs, and I.

00:29:02:04 - 00:29:05:10
Speaker 3
Almost called you to do a podcast with.

00:29:05:10 - 00:29:08:15
Speaker 1
You. I talked to my manager about it and everything, and.

00:29:08:18 - 00:29:10:29
Speaker 2
Oh, well, he nixed Lenny nixed it? No, not at all.

00:29:10:29 - 00:29:13:27
Speaker 3
It was literally two days later, he called me and tell me you got.

00:29:14:01 - 00:29:17:11
Speaker 2
We were going to do one called eyebrow get brows.

00:29:17:13 - 00:29:18:29
Speaker 3
Male eyebrows.

00:29:19:02 - 00:29:20:08
Speaker 4
Eyebrows and Botox.

00:29:20:11 - 00:29:26:19
Speaker 3
Well, speaking of that, we need to get to the niche. We always try to attract, a.

00:29:26:21 - 00:29:30:18
Speaker 1
New pile of people who are not being fed on the internet.

00:29:30:21 - 00:29:33:07
Speaker 3
You are a lizard guy.

00:29:33:10 - 00:29:36:10
Speaker 1
You were talking about your lizards before. Off, off there.

00:29:36:10 - 00:29:39:22
Speaker 3
So tell us, how you got into lizards.

00:29:39:25 - 00:29:39:27
Speaker 1
It.

00:29:39:27 - 00:29:43:05
Speaker 3
Was. That's after the Bulldogs. Yeah, I love bulldogs.

00:29:43:05 - 00:29:45:21
Speaker 1
I follow only the Bulldog on Instagram.

00:29:45:21 - 00:29:46:11
Speaker 2
I had the great.

00:29:46:11 - 00:29:47:14
Speaker 1
One of his biggest fans.

00:29:47:14 - 00:30:03:20
Speaker 2
I had the greatest Joey. And, I'll never forget, I was on the air and my mom happened to be visiting in Tulsa. And I said, mom, you know, make sure you let in. The guy from, we had a place called Mathis Brothers. Mathis brothers. I don't know what we have here that's like that. It was above advertise.

00:30:03:20 - 00:30:19:23
Speaker 2
It was very him. And I said, man, the delivery guy is going to come sometime between 2 and 5. I'll be on the air. I did afternoons then. So you got to make sure you're here so you can let him in. He was no problem. So the guy eventually shows up and she takes him to this room. This is where the furniture goes.

00:30:19:23 - 00:30:30:20
Speaker 2
And it was the most gorgeous racecar bed. I mean, it looked like a real race car. And then it had a mattress. Then there were you there? There was lockers, towels.

00:30:30:22 - 00:30:31:23
Speaker 4
So this guy is putting.

00:30:31:23 - 00:30:33:05
Speaker 3
All this stuff together.

00:30:33:07 - 00:30:40:09
Speaker 2
He's put this stuff all together. It looks at my mom and he goes, boy, you must have a lucky grandson. She goes, well, he's looking right at you. And he goes, this is all.

00:30:40:09 - 00:30:44:24
Speaker 3
For a dog. Oh, it's for the dog. Thank God. I thought it was for, you know.

00:30:44:27 - 00:30:45:24
Speaker 4
To get.

00:30:45:26 - 00:30:46:10
Speaker 3
The dog.

00:30:46:10 - 00:30:58:20
Speaker 2
But no, I love the dog. Joey was my favorite. And then I had another one after him. And then, you know, so I was I was at a Syracuse LSU football game, and my daughters are like me, they they.

00:30:58:22 - 00:30:59:19
Speaker 4
How old are they?

00:30:59:22 - 00:31:21:29
Speaker 2
My daughters. I have twin daughters that are 20 and I have a son who is 18. At this time, the daughters were probably 15 and my son was probably 13. But anyway, they love animals, don't really care for people, but they love animals, so they're always buying animals. So I'm at this football game and I get this text and it's a picture of this female chameleon.

00:31:22:02 - 00:31:36:00
Speaker 2
And I just looked at her face and started laughing. Now, I've never had a lizard in my life, let alone a chameleon. And I just remember I texted as soon as I get off the plane, we're going and getting her, and we're going to call her Eleanor. She looks just like Eleanor Roosevelt.

00:31:36:02 - 00:31:40:08
Speaker 3
So I don't I wish we can. We have to put a picture of Eleanor Roosevelt.

00:31:40:15 - 00:31:53:25
Speaker 2
I can give you a I'll give you a snapshot of my Eleanor. So I don't know about the size of my pinky finger when I brought her home. She's still live on my ear. Then she lifted my head and I mean, you know, just let my guard down. I didn't know better. I mean, I got close, I love this.

00:31:53:25 - 00:31:57:17
Speaker 2
I used to take her for drives, let her drive the car because they have unique hands.

00:31:57:17 - 00:31:58:06
Speaker 4
This little.

00:31:58:12 - 00:32:05:14
Speaker 2
Yeah. So she would grab the wheel and she looked like she knew what she was doing. And like, she would watch TV and she'd react to the TV.

00:32:05:14 - 00:32:09:12
Speaker 4
And he drove her through a school zone. That's what she.

00:32:09:14 - 00:32:18:00
Speaker 3
Heard. Wasn't me. Get. That's what you need for the Tesla. Because you're supposed to have your hands on the wheel. Yeah. Just tell you just a normal little lizard out there.

00:32:18:07 - 00:32:36:13
Speaker 2
So, Eleanor, Eleanor. Push me. And then females are really difficult, too, by the way, I wouldn't. First of all, you shouldn't start with a chameleon. They're a very high end delicate. You know, they're hard to keep alive. And so that caused me to immerse myself and know everything you have to know, because you're basically taking them out of their environment and you got to recreate it inside.

00:32:36:13 - 00:32:56:18
Speaker 2
So calcium and everything they would get from the sun, you got to get through light and through wow. Through food. And then you become like, you know, silence of the lambs. Because these crickets, I buy everything those crickets eat go. And Eleanor. So then you're like a mad scientist making sure the crickets are eating all this great stuff so that she gets all those vitamins and nutrients.

00:32:56:20 - 00:33:10:15
Speaker 2
But she had a lot. And then they have eggs and they can die when they're doing that and burying them and all that. So it's just so much involved. And I think that makes you love even deeper. And, I lost her at one and a half. The males live longer. I had Duke, he lived to be five.

00:33:10:17 - 00:33:31:00
Speaker 2
They're just amazing. I had an Australian frill that was hilarious. His name was Johnny. I gave him to him. I got from great friendships over this. In fact, best show nobody ever saw me. And my two friends did a video podcast called The Jungle Room, and you can still Google it and find it probably on, YouTube still.

00:33:31:00 - 00:33:42:07
Speaker 2
But it was very, very well done. We had a, an Emmy Award winning producer that did all the shoots and editing. Wow. But, you know, exotic pets. You wouldn't. I never would've thought I would have owned one, let alone could love one.

00:33:42:07 - 00:34:02:28
Speaker 4
But you're hitting one of my secret obsessions. So I'm not obsessed with exotic pets, but I'm obsessed with the exotic pet community. Like, I feel like since Tiger King, like. And then I've watched all the ones that reptile shows and reptile people, they use the most normal, exotic pet person I have ever.

00:34:02:29 - 00:34:11:25
Speaker 2
Oh, that I did not. I even went to an exotic pet show. That's where I got Johnny Wild. But yeah, and there's, you know, they they don't they don't look like me.

00:34:11:29 - 00:34:20:19
Speaker 4
It's insanity. But I mean, they're like smuggling in. They're like one bite. This'll kill your whole family. Yeah, but I got it in my wife's breast pocket.

00:34:20:19 - 00:34:22:14
Speaker 2
With her marbles. That's it.

00:34:22:17 - 00:34:26:23
Speaker 4
Just don't go for a smoke. It's ready. Like it's sandy. Yeah, or.

00:34:26:23 - 00:34:30:26
Speaker 2
You know, what's that tattoo? And then it starts moving. Oh, my gosh, that's a snake. Yeah. They just they're. Yeah.

00:34:30:28 - 00:34:40:05
Speaker 4
Always on them. And like the smuggling in and out and like the I mean they work harder to get those things in and out than the cartel. I feel like.

00:34:40:07 - 00:34:57:01
Speaker 2
But the chameleons were I mean they're great pets, but the females don't live very long. And then I after about three episodes of crying, I thought, I'm going to take a break. So I've taken a break for now. Two years, but I still to this day cannot go in like a PetSmart because if I see one and they give me that, you know how you are with my eyebrows.

00:34:57:01 - 00:35:11:09
Speaker 2
Yeah. You ought to see a chameleon. Yeah, yeah, because I would. I would sit and watch a game, and then I would take a picture of Eleanor, and I could see that she'd have one eye on the game and one eye on. And, I mean, they just, I don't know, they brought such joy to my life. And they were so funny.

00:35:11:09 - 00:35:17:23
Speaker 2
Funny. And they're very peaceful. So I highly recommend you don't start with a chameleon. Start with a bearded dragon or something simple.

00:35:17:23 - 00:35:19:25
Speaker 3
Anyway, we just cater to the lizard people.

00:35:19:25 - 00:35:21:02
Speaker 1
So that's.

00:35:21:04 - 00:35:21:18
Speaker 4
That's a whole.

00:35:21:18 - 00:35:23:24
Speaker 2
Other scandal. That's Google out something different.

00:35:23:26 - 00:35:31:05
Speaker 3
Hashtag her lizard. You know, now you were a bulldog. I, I wanted a bulldog, but the the.

00:35:31:05 - 00:35:37:01
Speaker 1
Problem and we talked about this is, is there life expectancy? Yeah. It's hard. It's hard.

00:35:37:04 - 00:35:38:01
Speaker 3
But I just wanted.

00:35:38:01 - 00:35:40:28
Speaker 1
A dog that every time I looked at it made me.

00:35:41:01 - 00:35:43:26
Speaker 2
Laugh. Yeah, that was my dog.

00:35:43:28 - 00:35:44:24
Speaker 3
I mean, I really do.

00:35:44:24 - 00:35:49:24
Speaker 2
So the most expensive surgery Joey had was he had to have an ACL surgery.

00:35:49:26 - 00:35:51:10
Speaker 3
I had never heard. I had a dog.

00:35:51:10 - 00:35:52:05
Speaker 2
I had a dog.

00:35:52:07 - 00:35:57:07
Speaker 4
So these are problems women have when they date sugar daddies. He cost 30.

00:35:57:07 - 00:36:08:13
Speaker 2
$800. It's not funny. I had this, I had this hammer done, chair and Ottoman. I don't know what that chair cost. I mean, it was something ridiculous at the time, but he had he used to lay on.

00:36:08:13 - 00:36:09:05
Speaker 3
It was that Mathis.

00:36:09:05 - 00:36:10:25
Speaker 2
Brothers and he was sucking his pillow.

00:36:10:25 - 00:36:13:19
Speaker 3
Yeah, that was that. That's right. You told us about that. Tell him about the pillow.

00:36:13:19 - 00:36:29:08
Speaker 2
So my bulldog like to suck a pillow. And it just started when he was young. And so he would just sit there and watch TV and suck on his pillow. And then I was telling. I was telling him it'd be very traumatic. Every three years we'd have to get a new one. And I had to take that one away because it was really disgusting.

00:36:29:10 - 00:36:36:22
Speaker 2
And so I would take him to the furniture store or to the home, like, what do we have now here? I'm trying to think, in Tennessee we have.

00:36:36:25 - 00:36:37:16
Speaker 3
Michael on.

00:36:37:16 - 00:36:38:13
Speaker 1
That. Michael's,

00:36:38:15 - 00:36:40:09
Speaker 2
What's that new home now? Was like home.

00:36:40:12 - 00:36:40:19
Speaker 3
Yeah.

00:36:40:19 - 00:36:50:21
Speaker 2
Home store or whatever it is. And, you know, the aisles and aisles of pillows. And so I would go in there, like Hobby Lobby or something, and we'd pick out pillows and I'd have to put in his mouth.

00:36:50:23 - 00:36:54:18
Speaker 3
So there's people buying the stuff. They probably bought a joy box all over.

00:36:54:23 - 00:36:56:06
Speaker 2
But. So yeah, no, he had.

00:36:56:06 - 00:36:57:23
Speaker 4
It like, this is one, do you like this.

00:36:57:23 - 00:37:05:16
Speaker 2
One? But he was sucking his pillow and he rolled and fell off the Ottoman with his leg caught and pulled his tore his ACL. And I do have a I.

00:37:05:16 - 00:37:09:29
Speaker 4
Don't mean to laugh, but it's just the caring. The caring is. So that's before.

00:37:09:29 - 00:37:10:18
Speaker 2
You have kids.

00:37:10:19 - 00:37:20:12
Speaker 4
I have a corgi and apparently they have like a bunch of leg problems I didn't know. And so a year ago I would have been like, why would you waste your money and just put it down.

00:37:20:15 - 00:37:26:02
Unknown
In the backyard? I was also doing the pillow.

00:37:26:05 - 00:37:42:17
Speaker 4
But now that I'm like, so in love with the stupid thing, I hate it. It's so dangerous, the vulnerability. I'm like, oh, I can't love this thing this much. It's not good. And then I'm like, like on my way over here, I was like, okay, she's in the crate. There's nothing she could get. And I'm late with my son.

00:37:42:17 - 00:37:47:06
Speaker 4
I was like, hey, it's good, he's fine. And then with this dog, I'm like, it's not good.

00:37:47:06 - 00:38:00:23
Speaker 2
Yeah. Joey was there, was I? When I was living in DC at the time and, I kept waking up and he would chew my glasses. I mean, like this is like 1990, and they were like $260 each. And he would chew on and I'm like, man.

00:38:00:27 - 00:38:02:05
Speaker 4
Tell me about the 90s.

00:38:02:05 - 00:38:07:27
Speaker 3
Papa will go home, I tell you, begging. And then you have to wait.

00:38:07:29 - 00:38:10:16
Speaker 2
Cause I'm thinking, you know, I'm falling asleep on the couch.

00:38:10:16 - 00:38:14:10
Speaker 3
I'm like, wait a minute. I'm having a fine moment of nostalgia for the 1980s.

00:38:14:11 - 00:38:15:24
Speaker 2
I hated the 90s.

00:38:15:26 - 00:38:18:12
Speaker 3
But one night I woke up broken back. I kept.

00:38:18:12 - 00:38:19:26
Speaker 2
Blaming myself.

00:38:19:29 - 00:38:22:04
Speaker 3
You were coming to think of it. Thanks for bringing that up.

00:38:22:04 - 00:38:40:18
Speaker 2
No, actually, I was the poorest. I was was in Oklahoma City. I worked it was supposed to be a real high personality station. And by the time we got there, I remember we went to go have a cigaret break and we found the room where all the cart machines were, which is the songs. And like, I thought we were supposed to be, classic rock and lots of personality.

00:38:40:20 - 00:38:51:29
Speaker 2
This is Whitney Houston and, you know, the carpenters. What are we? Then we get into the meeting and they tell us the consultants have changed your mind. We're going to do a soft AC called my 107.7.

00:38:51:29 - 00:38:53:07
Speaker 4
Oh my gosh, give us a little bit.

00:38:53:07 - 00:39:11:02
Speaker 2
Of a I am. So I went against high profile personalities me from New Orleans and the guy from Dallas. I'm sorry I had to get up, but I had a $200 apartment that I filled with air and rents furniture. I mean, I think my whole not including dairy Queen was like 300 a month. I was never happier. I think it's great.

00:39:11:04 - 00:39:16:14
Speaker 3
If you remember Chicago back in the 70s, FM was just.

00:39:16:14 - 00:39:17:01
Speaker 1
Really kind.

00:39:17:01 - 00:39:17:10
Speaker 3
Of about the.

00:39:17:10 - 00:39:18:01
Speaker 2
70s.

00:39:18:04 - 00:39:19:03
Speaker 3
Really? Oh, really?

00:39:19:03 - 00:39:20:20
Speaker 4
Tell us about the 70s.

00:39:20:24 - 00:39:21:28
Speaker 3
FM.

00:39:22:01 - 00:39:24:26
Speaker 1
They had these women with these sultry voice.

00:39:24:26 - 00:39:25:22
Speaker 2
Oh, yeah.

00:39:25:25 - 00:39:35:10
Speaker 3
Wow. And then I got to see. Oh, yeah. Nobody sweat pants hair. You know, it ruined the whole fantasy. I said what I created in my mind was so perfect. Yeah.

00:39:35:10 - 00:39:35:29
Speaker 1
So beautiful.

00:39:36:00 - 00:39:36:21
Speaker 2
That's why we.

00:39:36:23 - 00:39:38:17
Speaker 4
Put so many women out of business.

00:39:38:20 - 00:39:41:11
Speaker 3
Yeah. Well, sure. Oh, at least I have to get dressed.

00:39:41:11 - 00:39:44:16
Speaker 1
And, you know, I'm. Yeah. You bathe, right?

00:39:44:19 - 00:39:45:13
Speaker 4
I mean, kind of.

00:39:45:16 - 00:39:48:13
Speaker 3
Kind of a little bit. And I was playing and playing, you.

00:39:48:15 - 00:39:50:27
Speaker 4
Know, changing the way the smell I.

00:39:50:27 - 00:39:53:24
Speaker 2
Made out of the Bucky's restroom for ten minutes. But she's here now.

00:39:53:24 - 00:39:58:02
Speaker 4
That's all that matters. I walk through the neighbor's pond.

00:39:58:04 - 00:40:06:14
Speaker 3
That was for my kid. Went to camp. Your kid ever go to camp? No. I didn't have any kids. Camp Tammy sent them with seven folded pairs.

00:40:06:14 - 00:40:10:15
Speaker 1
Underwear. It came back a week later with six folded all.

00:40:10:17 - 00:40:11:03
Speaker 4
Oh, my gosh.

00:40:11:05 - 00:40:24:26
Speaker 3
I said you didn't. Did you even bathe? He goes, we swam every day. Yeah. The frightened every parent or just out of chlorine in a world. The dog, the last 300 youths that, haven't bathed.

00:40:24:29 - 00:40:40:18
Speaker 2
Oh, I never finish a story. So I woke up in the middle of night. One night, he was straddling me carefully. Kind of like the matrix. Joey. Yeah, and he was with this huge underbite. He was taking my glasses off at the. Oh, really? Right at the bridge. And that's when I realize you've been taking him off. Because I was blaming myself.

00:40:40:20 - 00:40:42:20
Speaker 4
For leaving him around. And he was. Yeah, that was.

00:40:42:22 - 00:40:47:19
Speaker 2
That was a condo. He ate an entire wall. But then he mellowed out after, like one and a half. He was a good boy.

00:40:47:19 - 00:40:50:20
Speaker 3
Yeah. When you got a pass, like drywall as it.

00:40:50:20 - 00:40:51:02
Speaker 1
Yeah.

00:40:51:08 - 00:40:52:28
Speaker 3
You realize it's difficult now.

00:40:52:28 - 00:40:56:07
Speaker 2
He took a wall out. That was a busy day of chewing.

00:40:56:07 - 00:41:01:29
Speaker 4
I have, adverse love of the Bulldogs. I got bit by one. Really bad, like English.

00:41:02:06 - 00:41:03:24
Speaker 2
Pit.

00:41:03:27 - 00:41:10:29
Speaker 4
It was, it could have been a mix, but it was real low to the ground. Looked like an English bulldog, but it could have been. That's rare.

00:41:10:29 - 00:41:12:16
Speaker 2
That they would invite here.

00:41:12:17 - 00:41:23:22
Speaker 4
Though. Yeah, I love them. And I was so surprised. But it was going after my dog and like exposed this whole risk. Oh, it was super gnarly. Yeah. That would it was going off. She's a little corgi right? When I got her and I picked her up and it was trying to get.

00:41:23:22 - 00:41:36:03
Speaker 2
Down there and be scary. Joe I used to sleep next to me and he sounded like a little little man because it'd be real quiet. You'd hear, oh, oh, and then you go, and I like I'm sleeping with an old man.

00:41:36:03 - 00:41:41:29
Speaker 4
Yeah, I had a pug once and. Oh, there it is. Yeah, it was.

00:41:41:29 - 00:41:44:02
Speaker 2
Very gnarly. And they got to be right. Your face staring it.

00:41:44:02 - 00:42:03:05
Speaker 4
I heard the saddest pug story one time. And you know, when somebody tells you something tragic. But it's so funny that you feel shame for laughing. But my friend was like, well, we lost name, yo. I was like, what happened? And, it was a pug. And it was real flat faced, and it was kind of dumb and it put its face in a puddle and couldn't figure out.

00:42:03:11 - 00:42:04:09
Speaker 2
How to get out.

00:42:04:11 - 00:42:07:10
Speaker 4
Oh, wow. Found it drowned.

00:42:07:13 - 00:42:09:02
Speaker 2
Oh my gosh, that's it.

00:42:09:03 - 00:42:09:28
Speaker 4
Oh.

00:42:10:00 - 00:42:11:19
Speaker 2
That is the dumbest.

00:42:11:21 - 00:42:14:13
Speaker 3
Sounds like suicide. I mean, we're kind of high school, right?

00:42:14:15 - 00:42:16:14
Speaker 4
Yeah. Things about it.

00:42:16:19 - 00:42:21:18
Speaker 3
That's. I can't take this. You find Jeff with his face in a puddle? He had a bad round of golf.

00:42:21:21 - 00:42:26:17
Speaker 4
Oh, its name was Nino. And I was like, well, we'll call it El Nino.

00:42:26:19 - 00:42:28:11
Speaker 3
Wow. Holy cow.

00:42:28:14 - 00:42:29:16
Speaker 2
That would be tragic.

00:42:29:17 - 00:42:31:02
Speaker 3
Yeah, well, we.

00:42:31:02 - 00:42:32:00
Speaker 1
Have,

00:42:32:03 - 00:42:33:23
Speaker 4
Dog kills. And, I mean.

00:42:33:26 - 00:42:36:18
Speaker 2
What did I do wrong? I never saw the sign.

00:42:36:19 - 00:42:59:18
Speaker 4
My husband, his ex, in-laws, they had this chow and he had some issues with his ex and was anyways, kind of couldn't stand them. Kind of couldn't stand the kids, kind of couldn't stand their dog. And one day they were in a condo on vacation to the store. So the dog just bolted up and jumped over. So was like, if they were my owners, I'd jump to, yeah.

00:42:59:21 - 00:43:01:22
Speaker 2
Yeah, that's that happens.

00:43:01:25 - 00:43:11:03
Speaker 4
Yeah. Brutal. It survived. It hit a car on the way. Oh he lived. Oh. You got any other good dog stories? When.

00:43:11:05 - 00:43:12:19
Speaker 1
We're still on the.

00:43:12:21 - 00:43:13:05
Speaker 3
Blizzards.

00:43:13:06 - 00:43:13:22
Speaker 2
Bleep.

00:43:13:24 - 00:43:16:19
Speaker 4
Interesting question. Yes. Am I allowed to ask the question.

00:43:16:20 - 00:43:17:04
Speaker 3
Yes you can.

00:43:17:04 - 00:43:19:01
Speaker 4
Ask okay I'm a big big big girl.

00:43:19:03 - 00:43:20:09
Speaker 3
You know what that makes me sad.

00:43:20:16 - 00:43:21:12
Speaker 2
Is it going to be about what.

00:43:21:12 - 00:43:27:06
Unknown
Oh you're not allowed. Is it going to be about what that is? I have to tell you, I know.

00:43:27:08 - 00:43:28:25
Speaker 2
A lot of double breasted suits.

00:43:28:25 - 00:43:35:06
Speaker 3
Dare I ask you for this? You said you don't think at all.

00:43:35:08 - 00:43:36:22
Speaker 2
Yeah. Thinking is,

00:43:36:24 - 00:43:39:00
Speaker 4
I want a liberal that doesn't talk.

00:43:39:01 - 00:43:42:18
Speaker 3
Let me ask you. Yeah. Do you know you remember the question? Yes.

00:43:42:20 - 00:43:44:28
Speaker 1
Okay. You're way ahead of me and Michael at this point.

00:43:45:05 - 00:43:45:15
Speaker 4
Okay?

00:43:45:15 - 00:43:45:25
Speaker 3
If I get.

00:43:45:25 - 00:43:48:21
Speaker 1
Interrupted, whatever I was thinking about, it's gone.

00:43:48:21 - 00:43:51:17
Speaker 2
So it's not that as much as where we go is more fun.

00:43:51:20 - 00:43:52:18
Speaker 4
Yeah. That's true.

00:43:52:19 - 00:43:53:26
Speaker 3
Well, Trump called it the weave.

00:43:53:26 - 00:44:08:12
Speaker 1
I love that I use that now in my show because I ramble off and then I'll start talking about my birthday and my birthday card, and then I'll go off and all these different topics and come back. So I was opening my birthday card. You see a big.

00:44:08:14 - 00:44:09:15
Speaker 3
And I said, I got.

00:44:09:15 - 00:44:11:03
Speaker 1
A name for it. Now it's, it's the weave.

00:44:11:04 - 00:44:12:09
Speaker 3
So we're going to weave.

00:44:12:09 - 00:44:12:27
Speaker 4
We're weaving.

00:44:12:27 - 00:44:14:20
Speaker 3
What was the question?

00:44:14:22 - 00:44:26:07
Speaker 4
Okay. So you wanted to be a pastor. Your dad grew up in radio kind of. What is your I hate thrown around that, like, testimony. What is your what is your life with Christ like? How did you when did you know? Oh.

00:44:26:07 - 00:44:27:22
Speaker 2
So,

00:44:27:24 - 00:44:28:27
Speaker 4
Do you grow up in the church?

00:44:29:00 - 00:44:51:12
Speaker 2
No. Okay. Well, this can be perceived as negative. I don't mean it to be. I grew up Catholic, so I was around religion, but it wasn't anything to me, so I was 13 years old. I, my dad had moved to New Orleans, and it was great. Culture shock. Chicago to New Orleans. I went from a big, beautiful public school in Chicago with a basketball team and painted basketball court.

00:44:51:12 - 00:44:52:01
Speaker 2
And what.

00:44:52:01 - 00:44:53:00
Speaker 3
High school?

00:44:53:02 - 00:44:55:26
Speaker 2
Holmes Junior High and then Rolling Meadows.

00:44:55:28 - 00:44:56:13
Speaker 3
Oh, okay.

00:44:56:20 - 00:45:01:19
Speaker 2
So I lived in the same neighborhood as Sebastian Maniscalco. Oh, he lived right down the street.

00:45:01:21 - 00:45:09:09
Speaker 4
Oh, my gosh. One of the greats is special from 2012. Still holds up today. Oh, word for word for word.

00:45:09:11 - 00:45:21:11
Speaker 2
They're all great. I mean, the last one was a little, but all of his specials are great. So we moved to New Orleans and now I'm in this little private school. I can't understand anything anybody's saying without a translator.

00:45:21:14 - 00:45:22:29
Speaker 4
You don't speak Cajun? No.

00:45:22:29 - 00:45:39:06
Speaker 2
And so, you know, it's time to order lunch, and, you know, there's no cafeteria that this menu comes around, and they ask the guy next to me, I go, what is this thing? Has JJ's fried chicken? As in, what am I supposed to get? I get two piece of wild, dirty rice that the rice is dirty. Dirty, right?

00:45:39:06 - 00:46:02:16
Speaker 2
What is dirty, right? It's meat and rice. What kind of meat? Liver. Oh, do they have fries? Yeah. So it was so bizarre. And in New Orleans, it can get cold. And you may not think so, but it can get way colder than here. And Chicago was the coldest I've ever been in my life. But, it's a damp cold in New Orleans, so it's a really cold day and there is no cafeteria, so we didn't wanna eat in the classroom.

00:46:02:16 - 00:46:15:24
Speaker 2
We couldn't eat outside. It was too cold, so we went to the gym. We're on the basketball team. They gotta let us and eat right and our coaches at the door because you can't come in. They're having Bible study. And I said, well, what if we go to Bible study? Oh, well then you can eat. I said, all right.

00:46:15:27 - 00:46:35:17
Speaker 2
I'm thinking Chase me, brother Mike, I got you. Okay? And then I looked across. I saw the girls were in there. They were the cutest girls in school. Debra Carter and I just sat down. I wish I had, some great big testimony. Other than I heard the word, I was immediately drawn to it. And,

00:46:35:20 - 00:46:38:22
Speaker 4
That had somewhere to sit. JJ's chicken. You know, I.

00:46:39:00 - 00:46:46:04
Speaker 2
Was I was starting that I can't remember teaching in Matthew, and I just never heard the word read and taught that way. And then I started going to Bible study. Then I started.

00:46:46:04 - 00:46:47:19
Speaker 4
Going. Because you always heard it. Liturgical.

00:46:47:19 - 00:47:05:27
Speaker 2
Yes. And it was just. It was just so refreshing. And then put into perspective for us and what we were going through at that age. So my high school coach, Frank Lauria, was the one that shared the gospel with me. And I accepted Christ. And I always went to Frank's church. His his first one was on Magazine Street, New Orleans.

00:47:05:27 - 00:47:09:12
Speaker 2
I was pretty wild. And and now my.

00:47:09:12 - 00:47:11:05
Speaker 3
Bass Street church.

00:47:11:07 - 00:47:17:19
Speaker 2
Well, kind of it was that old. And then my friend who went to the Bible study with me to eat is now the pastor of their church.

00:47:17:26 - 00:47:23:05
Speaker 4
Oh my gosh, that's so funny. They still serve James. Yep. Every Sunday. Wow.

00:47:23:08 - 00:47:25:03
Speaker 3
I like I had heard a.

00:47:25:05 - 00:47:43:12
Speaker 1
Pastor talk about his. He was a football player on college, and one of those organizations that goes from dorm to dorm came in and they were preaching that, teaching the gospel to the lineman in the other bed. And he said it bounced off his thick skull and hit it.

00:47:43:14 - 00:47:47:15
Speaker 3
Hit me right in the heart. That's how he said I had gone to church my whole life.

00:47:47:15 - 00:48:05:13
Speaker 2
And then we were the Bible boys. You know that. You know, we still, you know, we were around a lot. I mean, everybody smoked, we did drugs, stole from convenience stores and so on. But, I think, you know, the testimony is most of that school came to Christ by the time we graduated. And, a lot of them go to that church that my friends church.

00:48:05:15 - 00:48:06:10
Speaker 3
Man, it's great.

00:48:06:12 - 00:48:07:27
Speaker 4
And it's amazing.

00:48:08:00 - 00:48:12:16
Speaker 3
What do you read?

00:48:12:18 - 00:48:14:21
Speaker 1
As far as,

00:48:14:23 - 00:48:17:01
Speaker 3
Because again, I, you're like my go.

00:48:17:01 - 00:48:29:20
Speaker 1
To guy if I want to hear about how Israel fits into this world we're living in, from a biblical perspective. And, so what what books have you read or, did you study? And.

00:48:29:23 - 00:48:45:27
Speaker 2
You know what got me on that? I used to be, and this may go back to that magazine Street church. They did a terrible movie night one time. It was the cheesiest movie on the rapture. And then I was about a year later, Hal Lindsey came out with late, great Planet Earth member, and we all went and saw how Lindsay's moving.

00:48:45:27 - 00:48:54:22
Speaker 2
Got scared. We were thinking, we're, you know, Christ is going to turn any day. And then it kind of, you know, I went through when I was at LSU because I was going to do two years in my general courses.

00:48:54:22 - 00:48:55:21
Speaker 3
And it was this, this.

00:48:55:21 - 00:48:57:02
Speaker 2
Would have been 82, 84.

00:48:57:02 - 00:48:59:15
Speaker 1
Tell us about the 80s, Papa.

00:48:59:17 - 00:49:17:25
Speaker 2
Tell us. There was a lot of video games, centipede and but and then I would I would go to church. I was to do my, my general courses for two years and then just switch to the Bible College of the Bible College never opened, but the one semester I was there, they were going through revelation. And I remember doing that, and that kind of got me.

00:49:17:27 - 00:49:33:00
Speaker 2
And then I just became kind of obsessed with it. And that can be negative, because then all that creates is you're going to, well, one of two things. Make it negative. One, you can spend your whole life trying to figure out when and then you're never living, you know. So if everything is about how long do we have it?

00:49:33:01 - 00:49:48:22
Speaker 2
Nobody's living. What difference does it make you might as well already be dead. The other is when you execute everything from Scripture, especially Jesus's teaching on the end times, you basically come to this conclusion we should live today like he's coming at two. And if we don't live like that, we're not living with urgency.

00:49:48:22 - 00:49:51:11
Speaker 3
And yeah, it's almost like I've heard people say that.

00:49:51:11 - 00:50:08:07
Speaker 1
If you really believe what you believe, you should be on the corner screaming at people, to get them, you know, I mean, if you really believed that they are condemned. Yeah. Then we should be a lot more, compassionate and, constant. Yeah.

00:50:08:07 - 00:50:17:25
Speaker 2
Or the better analogy would be, you know, a lot of Christians just want Jesus to come back, and I do. I would rather be with him right now than when.

00:50:17:27 - 00:50:18:22
Speaker 3
Really?

00:50:18:24 - 00:50:22:26
Speaker 2
No, it came out wrong. Oh. No. But, but.

00:50:22:29 - 00:50:25:22
Speaker 3
But I know that'll be the end of Mr. Mike. No, but.

00:50:25:22 - 00:50:41:13
Speaker 2
The the bottom line is that you wouldn't, if you really believed what you believed you'd want him to, Terry, because there's so many loss and you would want them to have time. So I think that's a natural. When I was younger, I didn't think that way. Now that I'm older, I do. And I think that's the mercy and grace of God, and that's how God lives.

00:50:41:13 - 00:50:42:26
Speaker 2
And I think that's why it gives us more time.

00:50:42:26 - 00:50:43:04
Speaker 3
And I'm a.

00:50:43:04 - 00:51:00:23
Speaker 1
Product of the 12 step program I got in as an atheist. And their saying is attraction rather than promotion. And it's the longer I walk with, you know, within the church community, I think maybe we can learn a lot from that. Oh yeah. No, it's just live your life.

00:51:00:23 - 00:51:02:09
Speaker 2
And speak less and live more.

00:51:02:09 - 00:51:03:11
Speaker 3
Right? Live your life.

00:51:03:11 - 00:51:06:12
Speaker 1
In a way where people look at it and go, wow, what's different about him?

00:51:06:12 - 00:51:07:16
Speaker 3
Because it's interesting.

00:51:07:16 - 00:51:24:03
Speaker 1
In my experience through life, there was a comic back in the, in Chicago that was always different than the rest of us, and I found out years later he was he's always been a believer. He just he never shared it with us or anything. He just lived differently than us.

00:51:24:05 - 00:51:25:16
Speaker 3
And it resonated.

00:51:25:16 - 00:51:36:08
Speaker 1
With me because it was such a different life than when we were all trashed all the time and foul mouth and all that, and he was just funny. Yeah. And, nice.

00:51:36:08 - 00:51:51:21
Speaker 2
Well, the church is really good at promoting loving God with all your heart, soul and mind. Not very good about loving your neighbor as yourself. Right. So I think that's what people say more than anything. When you take time for people and you just love them, but that you can't fake that, that'll come from being mature in Christ.

00:51:51:21 - 00:51:53:17
Speaker 2
It'll make you want to love people more.

00:51:53:19 - 00:52:18:24
Speaker 4
In my generation, I think it's hard for love your neighbor as yourself. It's hard for my generation to love themselves truly, deeply like and, and, fathomable love is like. We love exterior things that look like. Today's a self-care day I'm going to do. I'm take care of me. But I mean really love who you are as a person.

00:52:18:24 - 00:52:21:11
Speaker 4
To be okay with yourself, to love the person next door.

00:52:21:16 - 00:52:26:11
Speaker 3
Well, that was so difficult. That was I used to do a line in my show was.

00:52:26:14 - 00:52:31:26
Speaker 1
Love God and love your neighbor as you love yourself. If you don't get the first one right, the second one will be a nightmare.

00:52:31:28 - 00:52:32:29
Speaker 3
Yeah, because we.

00:52:32:29 - 00:52:40:13
Speaker 1
Do tend to love others as we love ourselves. The problem is, most of us don't go inside deep enough to realize how much loathing could be in there.

00:52:40:19 - 00:52:41:21
Speaker 4
Yeah.

00:52:41:23 - 00:52:42:22
Speaker 3
And one of the things.

00:52:42:25 - 00:52:58:15
Speaker 1
You talked about revelation I got wrapped up in the Peter's, statement. Have an answer ready? So I got into apologetics, and for five years, I mean, and I was reading the book, and my pastor walked by and he said, you like that? And I said, I love it. He goes.

00:52:58:18 - 00:52:59:09
Speaker 3
Careful.

00:52:59:11 - 00:53:01:05
Speaker 1
I went down that rabbit hole for 20 years.

00:53:01:06 - 00:53:03:13
Speaker 2
Yeah. It becomes it can be. It can become that.

00:53:03:13 - 00:53:04:25
Speaker 3
It's just this circular.

00:53:04:25 - 00:53:07:21
Speaker 1
Thing that just keeps and you realize that,

00:53:07:24 - 00:53:09:06
Speaker 3
Without the revelation.

00:53:09:09 - 00:53:15:22
Speaker 1
It's just an explanation. And that means nothing, right? But with the revelation, there's a life transforming.

00:53:15:25 - 00:53:17:14
Speaker 3
All of a sudden you're be.

00:53:17:17 - 00:53:44:02
Speaker 1
I was behaving in ways that were counter to years of. And it wasn't anything I did consciously. I didn't wake up one day and write on a piece of paper. I'm going to treat people with more respect. Like you said, if you're taking in that word and and trying to live it as it works through you, then there's a transform nature to it that isn't conscious, right?

00:53:44:06 - 00:53:57:16
Speaker 1
You know, all of a sudden she noticed that my Tami noticed I wasn't reacting in ways I used to, to stimuli. And, so when you take that into a business like radio, where there's so much cynicism.

00:53:57:18 - 00:54:01:07
Speaker 3
I mean, where you did, did you ever have people come to you or your.

00:54:01:07 - 00:54:02:29
Speaker 1
Chance to witness.

00:54:02:29 - 00:54:25:18
Speaker 2
An. Oh, yeah. I mean, but which one do I want to tell? I've had so many, it always starts the same way. It used to be emails, and then it became Facebook, but it would be the, they listened every day. And then one night, I opened up Facebook. Hey, can I ask you something?

00:54:25:20 - 00:54:45:23
Speaker 2
And that's how it always begins. And then. And when I tell you this, I mean, for about 15 people, they're in my phone and they're real friends. I had one who was homeless, and I used to message with them, pray with him. I'll never forget when he finally was ready to. He wrote a whole book, homeless from his car.

00:54:45:25 - 00:55:02:07
Speaker 2
And it's a great book. And then when he moved, he had no tires. And I said, we got to go put tires on. And I'll never forget, this is a true story. At that point, I think we had like $600 in the bank, and I spent it all on his tires, and I didn't even know. And I had kids.

00:55:02:07 - 00:55:17:08
Speaker 2
And I was like, oh, I don't know how we're going to eat, but oh, well, God, I wasn't gonna let him drive off without tires. And he's doing great now. And he went, got his degree, graduated homeless, wrote a book, homeless. Now he's got a job. He's got his own company. He's doing great. But it's.

00:55:17:11 - 00:55:33:09
Speaker 2
I have thousands of stories like that literally every day. So most of it's off the air. Yeah, but yeah, they they wouldn't know to call me until, you know, if I wasn't on the radio. So. Yeah, it's like you're a full time radio show host and then your pastor at night. Yeah, but it's not a matter of, you know, there's,

00:55:33:12 - 00:55:50:16
Speaker 2
I'll never forget we had this Bible study when I was really young. And at that time, all I wanted to do was do a good Bible study, you know, because that's the people you're looking up to, you know? And so. And I never forget, it was one day in the Bible, say, one of the girls that was always quiet, never said anything.

00:55:50:18 - 00:56:19:15
Speaker 2
And we were doing this Bible study. And she goes, you know, I found that I can't glorify God. And, you know, until I stopped trying to glorify myself through him. And I was like, and I don't think in 45 years anybody's top that line. So I think if you have an authentic when you're alone and no one's looking real relationship with God fed by years, I mean, just like years and years of hurt can build years and years of scar tissue.

00:56:19:17 - 00:56:40:14
Speaker 2
Well, years of years of revelation can build years of years of decreasing to where all that's left, I mean, I would say about 35. I didn't know what was me and what was Jesus by 50, I don't remember even me. I don't even remember a lot of stuff before then. And you just really, what, transform into the very likeness of Christ.

00:56:40:14 - 00:57:11:27
Speaker 2
And when you're there authentically now you're loving. Now you know when to shut up and just be. You know when to listen. You know when to help and point. You know when to encourage. Most people just don't want to be alone and be in it alone. I mean, life's pretty tough. And I've seen some people that the enemy has just literally ravaged, just viciously attacked, chewed up, dismembered, violently, threw their scraps around.

00:57:11:29 - 00:57:22:27
Speaker 2
And then there are some that I've been able to make a difference. And there and there, that's that's what I mean, I won't remember, I remember my wife, I remember my kids. I remember my dear friends. But that's that's all we take with us now.

00:57:22:27 - 00:57:30:20
Speaker 1
Your kids, I don't know how to phrase this.

00:57:30:22 - 00:57:34:00
Speaker 3
Have they absorbed the faith.

00:57:34:02 - 00:57:36:17
Speaker 1
Or have they, Have they gone?

00:57:36:17 - 00:57:37:21
Speaker 3
I remember now, the.

00:57:37:21 - 00:57:39:20
Speaker 1
20 year olds are pretty much. Yeah.

00:57:39:22 - 00:58:00:17
Speaker 2
No, they're, I have one that is very. It was always that. Well, I knew before she was born, I felt God revealed to me. You have one daughter that's going to be hard on herself. Like you teach her how to stay encouraged. But she's going to be a perfectionist, and she's going to be a make a big difference in this world.

00:58:00:17 - 00:58:21:24
Speaker 2
Do you handle her with care? And and that has played out. So she's, you. The world cannot entice her in any way. She is just. She was his before she was. You know, the scripture says I knew you while you were still in your mother's womb, right? I'm telling you, while she was still in the womb, God said that, and I watched it grow up.

00:58:21:26 - 00:58:26:17
Speaker 2
But I remember I would try to over teach them when they were young. I mean, they were like. And I didn't.

00:58:26:17 - 00:58:29:14
Speaker 3
Know best just to give them exegesis. Oh.

00:58:29:16 - 00:58:30:24
Speaker 2
I was doing a breakdown.

00:58:30:24 - 00:58:31:09
Speaker 3
The Greek.

00:58:31:13 - 00:58:39:17
Speaker 2
I was doing trilogy. I was doing the Trinity when they were like five and I'll never forget. And it was like, is it almost over?

00:58:39:18 - 00:58:41:11
Speaker 3
Michael is still eating dark. And then I got.

00:58:41:11 - 00:58:58:16
Speaker 2
One little my my son is a real deep voice, and he had a deep voice over the five, the dead. I'm not going to say this is boring, but I'm going to say I wish it was over two, you know, and then but here's the bottom line ten but it's a parent out there listening. And I think, you know, there are ways you teach them stories and and stuff.

00:58:58:16 - 00:59:00:16
Speaker 2
But I think kids watch it live.

00:59:00:19 - 00:59:02:06
Speaker 3
Right.

00:59:02:08 - 00:59:02:13
Speaker 2
And.

00:59:02:14 - 00:59:05:24
Speaker 3
That's where I kind of, I in hindsight, they.

00:59:05:24 - 00:59:08:16
Speaker 2
Don't listen to anything you say. They watch what you learn and say.

00:59:08:16 - 00:59:09:06
Speaker 3
I, Tammy.

00:59:09:06 - 00:59:32:05
Speaker 1
And I have talked about it and we wish we had more family, but Bible studies, we wish we had more of that. But my sons don't know me drinking. I quit a year into the marriage, so they saw me sober and they saw the the transformation, certainly from what I was. Yeah. And then after the Christ.

00:59:32:05 - 00:59:33:16
Speaker 3
But we would take him to.

00:59:33:16 - 00:59:58:02
Speaker 1
Church and I thought that was enough. And now that they both kind of walked away from, you know, the, the, the faith, it it's disheartening. You know, we're going through some issues with my oldest son now. He's he's got some medical issues. And Tammy said to him the other night, I know you don't really care, but we're praying for you.

00:59:58:06 - 01:00:18:21
Speaker 1
And when I was at the church working, I had the entire congregation pray for my son. And then the next day, some things happened and there were changes with doctors and people came in. And and now he's going to get the care that he needs. And I wished he, I wished I could call him and say those prayers.

01:00:18:21 - 01:00:25:23
Speaker 1
Man. They mean something, you know. And to him it would be a it's just a coincidence. It was, you know.

01:00:25:26 - 01:00:26:14
Speaker 3
Well.

01:00:26:16 - 01:00:34:12
Speaker 2
He won't be able to explain away a lifetime of coincidences. No, no, I mean, that's that's where we're in the, the loving business and God's in the results business.

01:00:34:12 - 01:00:34:24
Speaker 3
But I hear.

01:00:34:24 - 01:00:40:11
Speaker 1
That from people all the time on the road. Other children that are raised in the church and they walk well, I.

01:00:40:11 - 01:00:54:15
Speaker 2
Prayed a lot for my kids. I probably prayed more than I tried to teach them. I prayed for them, and all I ever really wanted them to do is have a heart for God, and that we would always be a close family. And it's so funny because as they get older, because when you're a parent, you don't know if you're doing right, you know, right.

01:00:54:16 - 01:01:18:21
Speaker 2
There's there's other. Forget the first time we left the hospital, I was like, they're letting us leave with these little test. It was like $100,000 a day at Nic, and now you're trusting them to me. But, you know, it happens the same way every night, Andrew. Now, be, like, in bed watching TV. Want to come in, hit pause on the TV, then another come in, the other come in, and then the cats will come in, and then the dog will come in.

01:01:18:21 - 01:01:35:11
Speaker 2
And there we all are, 50 300ft². But we're all by my bed, and we'll sit that and do that. I mean, this is almost a night, not nightly now that they're in college, but weekends, we do it every weekend, and we'd sit there and talk for hours and and my wife and my children have been more entertaining than any Netflix show that's ever been created.

01:01:35:13 - 01:01:52:04
Speaker 2
And there's been some good ones. And we're close as a family, and they all have a heart for God. And I don't have to tell them we're going to church. They're anxious to get up and go to church with us. It's been wonderful. And so for somebody that for really 20 years was scared to death, I wasn't doing anything right.

01:01:52:06 - 01:02:08:28
Speaker 2
You know, God's mercy was there, too. Yeah. You know, I just but aborted. But but they did. They saw a lot too. They saw some. I mean, I learned, you know, my childhood take away was you can't love your kids any more than you love their mother. In other words, if you don't love their mother, it's hard to love a kid.

01:02:09:00 - 01:02:26:05
Speaker 2
So they saw me love their mother and cherish her. And I can tell how boys don't. They don't stand up. They. They're always compared to me. Know my my daughters will tell you. I'm just looking for somebody like dad really loves God, but still cool and funny. You know, don't take himself too seriously. Not boring. And and I'm just watching.

01:02:26:08 - 01:02:38:25
Speaker 2
And then, you know, he wants me to pay for the food. Dad would never, you know, make us pay for our food, you know? And dad's given us jewelry. Why don't they? So they and they break up with him. And then the problem is, I like the boy. And I'm sad that the boy. I mean, there was one.

01:02:38:25 - 01:02:48:14
Speaker 2
This kid, Aiden, I loved him. It's going to be a doctor. He was so godly and so cherished my daughter. And she was like, I wasn't attracted to him.

01:02:48:16 - 01:03:03:19
Speaker 3
So it's funny, though, we we've talked about it. Tammy said we could pick better mates for her. Oh, sweet. Well, we could, right? It's better than they arranged marriages. Oh, yeah. Because you, you know, I heard a pastor tell a story about. He had this young woman in his congregation every week.

01:03:03:19 - 01:03:07:09
Speaker 1
She's got the Bible, she's got the notes, she's got the thing.

01:03:07:11 - 01:03:09:26
Speaker 3
Just as God's beautiful.

01:03:09:28 - 01:03:12:14
Speaker 4
You have to save everything to love our daughter.

01:03:12:14 - 01:03:13:20
Speaker 3
And what we do.

01:03:13:22 - 01:03:15:24
Speaker 4
We're not going to change our totter, Lord.

01:03:15:26 - 01:03:17:25
Speaker 3
Oh, well, yeah. This is a little side.

01:03:17:25 - 01:03:19:26
Speaker 4
Note, Tammy. Update is.

01:03:19:26 - 01:03:20:26
Speaker 3
We.

01:03:20:28 - 01:03:23:20
Speaker 2
Got a disclaimer. I hope my.

01:03:23:22 - 01:03:26:10
Speaker 3
Daughter was the thing that we want them.

01:03:26:16 - 01:03:33:28
Speaker 4
They're long listeners of the podcast. They subscribe to the Patreon. We adore them. They're phenomenal.

01:03:34:01 - 01:03:37:01
Speaker 3
Yes they are. A little side note.

01:03:37:08 - 01:03:38:12
Speaker 2
For where we oh.

01:03:38:12 - 01:03:41:17
Speaker 3
In the, But anyway, he was telling a story about this beautiful.

01:03:41:17 - 01:03:49:27
Speaker 1
Young woman, every Sunday, front and center with the notes, the Bible, and just amazing, God fearing woman.

01:03:50:00 - 01:03:58:11
Speaker 3
And she hooks up with the ball back cap and slouch and and, anyway, she ends up getting.

01:03:58:11 - 01:03:58:27
Speaker 1
Married to.

01:03:58:27 - 01:04:00:19
Speaker 3
The I o and.

01:04:00:25 - 01:04:13:29
Speaker 1
He said within six months they were in my office counseling and, and, anyway, he, you know, gave her a child and, and then, two years in, her brain kicked in again and she.

01:04:14:06 - 01:04:20:06
Speaker 3
Put it on a book. Come out. But he said, as a pastor, as an outside observer.

01:04:20:09 - 01:04:21:05
Speaker 1
Of,

01:04:21:07 - 01:04:21:26
Speaker 3
Yeah, I wanted to.

01:04:21:26 - 01:04:24:17
Speaker 1
Kind of intervene and go, oh, there's a lot of young.

01:04:24:17 - 01:04:47:06
Speaker 2
Men. I don't I don't really want anybody to get married to young. For me, anyway, I, I wasn't of sound mind till 30. I don't. And I told Nick my son, I said, look, if I, if he really like somebody and I ever look at you seriously and I go, no, Nick, trust me, I yeah, that's a little fact, but I don't I suspect they won't listen any more than we listened.

01:04:47:09 - 01:04:48:10
Speaker 2
Now. But,

01:04:48:13 - 01:04:49:05
Speaker 3
That was 30.

01:04:49:08 - 01:04:51:16
Speaker 2
That's all you pray for, right? That you marry? Well.

01:04:51:18 - 01:04:53:07
Speaker 1
When did you get married? What age?

01:04:53:09 - 01:05:09:18
Speaker 2
I was married once. Young. And then I waited a long time. Andrew and I met when I was 30, and I got married at 35. Wow. I made her wait five years. I wish I had credit for those five because we just celebrated 25 years. Wow, wow.

01:05:09:20 - 01:05:10:14
Speaker 3
Tammy and I met.

01:05:10:14 - 01:05:13:17
Speaker 1
On a Tuesday at midnight. We were married one Wednesday.

01:05:13:17 - 01:05:16:23
Speaker 2
That's so. Yeah, I guess we're we're in the middle now.

01:05:16:27 - 01:05:19:05
Speaker 3
Elvis married. You went at it. It was pretty quick, by.

01:05:19:05 - 01:05:23:07
Speaker 2
The way, when Elvis was alive. Did Elvis did Elvis impersonator weddings? Did they do.

01:05:23:07 - 01:05:38:28
Speaker 3
Weddings? That was the that was the greatest line. A movie you ever see Garden State? Oh. Watch Garden State. But one of the lines I'll never forget was, wouldn't it be cool if Elvis was alive, living in Vegas, marrying that Elvis impersonator? So he's got all these people screaming that you're not the king.

01:05:39:00 - 01:05:47:06
Speaker 2
I don't sell anything like the King. I was having a ball, being single and, you know, having a great life and one day there was nothing to talk about.

01:05:47:06 - 01:05:49:16
Speaker 3
You know, she met her in Oklahoma, in Oklahoma.

01:05:49:19 - 01:05:58:11
Speaker 2
And me and Rick Cary, who was doing the afternoon show with me. We were looking for things to talk about, and they had all the Miss Oklahoma pageant girls pictures in the paper.

01:05:58:14 - 01:06:02:15
Speaker 4
All 40 guys used to do dating apps.

01:06:02:17 - 01:06:03:29
Speaker 2
Yeah, well, that was long before that.

01:06:03:29 - 01:06:05:00
Speaker 1
Yeah, that was the,

01:06:05:07 - 01:06:06:13
Speaker 4
The the newspaper.

01:06:06:15 - 01:06:08:08
Speaker 3
So we start. We started.

01:06:08:08 - 01:06:32:13
Speaker 2
Yeah. This was 95. And so we were like cynically going there. They want to call it a scholarship pageant. Look at these two. These two are going to win. And so, then we got the idea of well, what if we had them on? And so I created this whole prize. That was hilarious. Not a new car, but a $10 worth of quarters for the spot that car wash and a weekend, Michael's boat with dry rot, with dry rot.

01:06:32:13 - 01:06:50:09
Speaker 2
And so we we interviewed both of them, and then I remember saying we made her miss big, big show. Andrea and I remember saying, well, whether you win or lose, we're doing a remote Monday. Can you come be on the show? And she said, sure. And I had a house full of people for a Tommy Morrison fight. And I kept flipping on the, the, the pageant.

01:06:50:09 - 01:07:05:18
Speaker 2
And I saw her do her piano. And then I met her, and I remember I walked in and I said, Who's the Indian in the kitchen? Is that your chaperon? She goes, no, that's my mother. Got off to a really good start with her. But, I mean, I knew the minute I walked in the room, I just knew that was my wife.

01:07:05:18 - 01:07:11:25
Speaker 2
And I've never not known it since. And, it was together. Wonderful. Yeah. So I mean.

01:07:11:28 - 01:07:13:20
Speaker 3
It's cool, I. Yeah.

01:07:13:23 - 01:07:20:19
Speaker 2
All the great things that happened, my life just happened instantly. I think, like, I heard the word, became a Christian, saw my wife married for life till death.

01:07:20:21 - 01:07:26:16
Speaker 4
Which works great if you make good choices. Because I've made but with the wrong one.

01:07:26:16 - 01:07:33:07
Speaker 3
No, I think when I'm down in the same thing, I go. I act instinctively to. Yeah. And it never pans out.

01:07:33:08 - 01:07:46:27
Speaker 2
No, it's something else. Something instantly. It's right when I'm studying and looking for it and searching for it and trying to make it. I mean, to me, the biggest thing in life was stop seeing people for what you wish they were and see them for what they really are. I was really bad about that. Yeah, yeah, you know that.

01:07:46:27 - 01:07:50:03
Speaker 2
And trying to fix the wounded people, you know, all the classic stuff. We all do.

01:07:50:06 - 01:07:50:26
Speaker 3
Tim and I have a.

01:07:50:26 - 01:07:54:17
Speaker 1
Three rule, certainly with finances, we.

01:07:54:20 - 01:07:55:20
Speaker 3
If we try to force.

01:07:55:20 - 01:08:08:17
Speaker 1
Our way into a situation to purchase something and that target slammed shut three times, we're done with because every time we've gone like 4 or 5 times, finally we're on our way. And it ended badly.

01:08:08:20 - 01:08:17:12
Speaker 2
Every time I wanted to do something and my wife didn't, it turned out badly. So I don't even do three. I just do one. If she doesn't like the idea, I don't do it. No.

01:08:17:14 - 01:08:20:27
Speaker 3
Did you ever, buy something on credit.

01:08:20:27 - 01:08:24:00
Speaker 1
That you were shocked that they gave you? I mean.

01:08:24:07 - 01:08:26:26
Speaker 3
I was in the middle of. We were having a talk every day.

01:08:26:26 - 01:08:27:07
Speaker 2
Of my.

01:08:27:07 - 01:08:34:07
Speaker 3
Life, so ahead. So funny to me. I just, I don't know, I popped into my head. We were, We were. We broke flat, busted.

01:08:34:10 - 01:08:40:05
Speaker 1
Broke or the IRS. Turns out, I mean, anyway, so just for kicks, we go to a car dealership, and the next thing you know.

01:08:40:07 - 01:08:46:13
Speaker 3
I'm signing papers and I'm going. Think I left the room and I'm looking at. Are they giving me this thought? They know this.

01:08:46:13 - 01:08:48:18
Speaker 4
Is before 2008.

01:08:48:20 - 01:08:49:21
Speaker 3
No. Yeah. It was

01:08:49:28 - 01:08:52:07
Speaker 4
Because I was feeling how that shook out.

01:08:52:10 - 01:08:55:26
Speaker 3
No, it was 90, 93 or 90. It was it was a Taurus.

01:08:55:28 - 01:08:56:10
Speaker 2
Tell her.

01:08:56:10 - 01:08:56:28
Speaker 3
About that night.

01:08:57:04 - 01:08:59:06
Speaker 4
So tell me more about the 90s.

01:08:59:12 - 01:09:01:29
Speaker 2
Go on. What year were you bored?

01:09:02:01 - 01:09:11:05
Speaker 4
I'm old. I'm pretending like I'm young. 89. Oh, okay. Yeah. December 89th. So I was born two weeks before 99.

01:09:11:05 - 01:09:13:24
Speaker 3
Michael's, which I saw.

01:09:13:26 - 01:09:15:28
Speaker 2
They used to be. It's got a new one.

01:09:16:04 - 01:09:19:09
Speaker 4
I'm glad to hear that. So what was the 93 car? What was.

01:09:19:09 - 01:09:22:23
Speaker 3
It was a Ford Taurus. Oh, really? Nice. Fancy schmancy.

01:09:22:24 - 01:09:23:19
Speaker 4
Lovely.

01:09:23:21 - 01:09:42:19
Speaker 1
And, they repossessed it. Months later, and Tammy called me. This is what I used to do. This is my testimony. Because it was kind of the husband I'd been. I was out of town. And she goes, you knew this was coming. Your boys are in the driveway and they're hauling their daddy's car.

01:09:42:21 - 01:10:01:26
Speaker 3
You coward. You know, these are the lessons you need to learn. You could have mentioned that the the repo man was was coming. You know, before, you know. Anyway, yeah. I was just one of those things when you were talking about, instant decisions. You know, I we again, I'm saying, I realize, are they giving me this?

01:10:01:26 - 01:10:10:08
Speaker 3
You know, at that time, $30,000, I go, I have no money I gave I don't lie, I you fill out a anyway, it's just a seriously.

01:10:10:12 - 01:10:13:26
Speaker 2
They needed to make a number that month and you were at.

01:10:13:28 - 01:10:17:02
Speaker 3
The time his dad comes to live with us and he goes to get an oil.

01:10:17:02 - 01:10:18:22
Speaker 1
Change. And Dixon.

01:10:18:24 - 01:10:19:27
Speaker 3
And he comes back with a.

01:10:19:27 - 01:10:22:16
Speaker 1
$42,000 for torso.

01:10:22:16 - 01:10:40:20
Speaker 3
It's 78 years old. He has no money, and she's she's out on the garden. And, I said, you got to see this. So she she hits the roof and I laugh and she goes, not funny. I go in my car. I, you know, I said, the repo man will be coming. This is what keeps him in business.

01:10:40:27 - 01:10:51:19
Speaker 4
I'm hearing this story and I'm thinking like, okay, that was the early 90s. I can kind of see where things started to maybe skew a little bit for the rest of us and got a little off track. Yeah, yeah.

01:10:51:22 - 01:10:52:25
Speaker 2
Living beyond our means.

01:10:52:25 - 01:11:01:15
Speaker 4
Yeah, a smidge. But. And we're in Ramsey country, right? I don't even know if I'm allowed to talk about credit prig Ramsey Cruz.

01:11:01:17 - 01:11:04:16
Speaker 3
Well, I had a guy give me my best financial advice ever.

01:11:04:18 - 01:11:05:23
Speaker 1
He said.

01:11:05:25 - 01:11:06:20
Speaker 3
I'll give you one tip.

01:11:06:20 - 01:11:08:08
Speaker 1
It'll save you a lot of money. And where he goes.

01:11:08:08 - 01:11:09:09
Speaker 3
Never buy anything.

01:11:09:09 - 01:11:12:06
Speaker 1
On credit that depreciates in value.

01:11:12:08 - 01:11:15:26
Speaker 3
Yeah, that's a good point. 99% of your credit. You know, you're.

01:11:15:26 - 01:11:18:08
Speaker 4
Telling me that the Ford Taurus didn't go up and.

01:11:18:10 - 01:11:19:12
Speaker 3
It doesn't. Are you.

01:11:19:12 - 01:11:19:23
Speaker 4
Sure?

01:11:19:27 - 01:11:20:23
Speaker 3
No, I.

01:11:20:26 - 01:11:22:12
Speaker 4
Really.

01:11:22:14 - 01:11:23:12
Speaker 3
The only thing would have made him more.

01:11:23:12 - 01:11:27:19
Speaker 1
Valuable if I, you know, robbed the bank and it. And then it would have been some.

01:11:27:19 - 01:11:38:15
Speaker 2
Historian just sitting here wondering if I got a cheap deal on a Ford. Just say focus. What was it for Taurus? Now, I never owned a Taurus. Let's say maybe I got your car.

01:11:38:18 - 01:11:39:01
Speaker 4
That would be.

01:11:39:01 - 01:11:40:20
Speaker 2
Hilarious. But mine was the Mustang.

01:11:40:23 - 01:11:47:17
Speaker 3
See if at all. Tammy's first car was a 6060, what, 66 Mustang? Yeah.

01:11:47:19 - 01:11:48:01
Speaker 2
That.

01:11:48:04 - 01:11:51:07
Speaker 3
Was her brother. Just bought in 1958.

01:11:51:09 - 01:11:53:17
Speaker 1
Completely restored Corvette.

01:11:53:17 - 01:11:57:16
Speaker 2
Oh. How sweet. Yeah, I love old cars, but I couldn't live without the technology.

01:11:57:21 - 01:12:01:18
Speaker 3
Yeah, well, they they got them where they they they put all that in it. Yeah, yeah.

01:12:01:19 - 01:12:02:22
Speaker 4
That, like the restomod.

01:12:02:22 - 01:12:03:21
Speaker 3
So it runs like 100.

01:12:03:21 - 01:12:04:27
Speaker 1
And 60,000.

01:12:04:27 - 01:12:06:29
Speaker 4
Dollars or something. Cars is my weakness.

01:12:06:29 - 01:12:09:20
Speaker 2
That's why cars and shoes.

01:12:09:22 - 01:12:21:25
Speaker 4
Me oh for you. Yeah. I was like I was like, oh, because I'm a woman. That was harsh noise and shoes, of course. And I'm like, I'm wearing a ripped up sweatshirt. No, I think I, I'm a guy. I can relate.

01:12:21:25 - 01:12:23:12
Speaker 2
To cars and shoes.

01:12:23:15 - 01:12:36:15
Speaker 4
Car shoes and jewelry. Yeah, I love jewelry. No. I think God keeps my financial means in check because I'd be that obnoxious car person I'd be ridiculous at. That's my.

01:12:36:18 - 01:12:37:00
Speaker 3
Really?

01:12:37:00 - 01:12:37:09
Speaker 4
Yeah.

01:12:37:09 - 01:12:39:29
Speaker 3
That's my, my grandson.

01:12:40:01 - 01:12:46:25
Speaker 1
Like a car. I'll go buy really exotic car. Tammy will go, oh, Lamborghini. And Caden goes. It's a McLaren.

01:12:47:00 - 01:12:48:12
Speaker 3
Yeah.

01:12:48:15 - 01:12:52:08
Speaker 4
Glen. Brentwood. It's a McLaren. We have standard.

01:12:52:11 - 01:12:53:13
Speaker 2
Yeah. We know. Yeah.

01:12:53:13 - 01:12:57:13
Speaker 3
Loves the Cybertruck. What are you what are your thoughts on the Cybertruck? I want to get to perspective.

01:12:57:14 - 01:13:00:05
Speaker 2
Ugliest thing I've ever seen in my life. Really? Yeah.

01:13:00:07 - 01:13:01:28
Speaker 3
You don't even, like. Not even.

01:13:02:00 - 01:13:03:05
Speaker 2
Remotely.

01:13:03:07 - 01:13:27:11
Speaker 4
Okay, these are my thoughts, my honest thought. One. I do think it's weird to to take a three dimensional world and create something that looks two dimensional. It looks like Minecraft. It's very weird. Yes, but what bums me out so much is you'll see them wrapped with, like, a little bit of color, but you have all that flat surface and the creativity you could do with like wrapping and doing all sorts of different things.

01:13:27:17 - 01:13:31:20
Speaker 4
I'm interested to see when people start like modding them out a little bit more than they have.

01:13:31:20 - 01:13:32:03
Speaker 3
Done with the.

01:13:32:03 - 01:13:33:07
Speaker 1
VW busses.

01:13:33:07 - 01:13:39:20
Speaker 4
Yeah, but they're so expensive that I would imagine people are too nervous maybe to get in there.

01:13:39:20 - 01:13:41:11
Speaker 3
And well, how many times have you.

01:13:41:11 - 01:13:43:05
Speaker 1
Seen the Cybertruck.

01:13:43:07 - 01:13:43:20
Speaker 4
Here?

01:13:43:20 - 01:13:45:04
Speaker 2
Wait, waiting. I see one.

01:13:45:07 - 01:13:45:28
Speaker 4
Probably every day.

01:13:45:29 - 01:13:46:13
Speaker 2
Most every.

01:13:46:13 - 01:13:47:27
Speaker 3
Day. Really. And you haven't, I?

01:13:47:27 - 01:13:49:23
Speaker 1
I'm telling you, the more I look at them.

01:13:49:25 - 01:13:52:10
Speaker 3
You're starting to like them. It wouldn't fit in my garage so I could.

01:13:52:10 - 01:13:53:27
Speaker 1
Never do it. I mean, like, but.

01:13:53:27 - 01:13:55:14
Speaker 3
I, I keep looking at it.

01:13:55:14 - 01:13:57:15
Speaker 1
Going with that mad Max type thing.

01:13:57:15 - 01:13:59:09
Speaker 3
And. Yeah, you know, the tank.

01:13:59:11 - 01:14:19:09
Speaker 2
She nailed it. Minecraft is a I mean, they make the original rockets that they were making looked phallic. This looks like Minecraft. I don't know, maybe the more brilliant you are, the more you give me a I mean I would, I would much prefer I mean whether the, the new GMC's a really nice pickup trucks, but I mean, I just love the way an old pickup truck looks.

01:14:19:09 - 01:14:26:26
Speaker 4
I love old Apache trucks. Sometimes I'll just start scrolling on those bad chickens, and when I can't get off, I'm like.

01:14:26:28 - 01:14:28:06
Speaker 3
Yeah, we had a we had a 19.

01:14:28:06 - 01:14:39:25
Speaker 1
87 Ford F-150, for the longest time. And, it was a death trap. I mean, I finally hit the brakes on highway 100, and I flew into the next lane.

01:14:39:26 - 01:14:41:02
Speaker 2
Oh, that would be I went, oh.

01:14:41:02 - 01:14:42:27
Speaker 3
And I said, we're selling the truck. So anyway.

01:14:42:27 - 01:14:44:27
Speaker 1
We get some 19 year old kid.

01:14:44:29 - 01:14:48:14
Speaker 3
And I'm standing in the driveway going, the minute you get out my.

01:14:48:14 - 01:14:51:15
Speaker 1
Driveway, you own this thing. I'm telling you, it's a death.

01:14:51:15 - 01:14:51:29
Speaker 3
Trap.

01:14:52:02 - 01:14:55:18
Speaker 1
On it. You know, sir, this is exactly what I was looking for.

01:14:55:20 - 01:15:00:17
Speaker 3
And I've been waiting for him to drive by completely or slighted. Oh, yeah.

01:15:00:21 - 01:15:17:17
Speaker 4
You know what's weird, though, is like the square body Fords were so sexy looking, and I wish they would bring that back. Really? And the cyber trucks are almost square body. But it's like, why does that old Ford like that Bronco straight body? Why does that look? So I try.

01:15:17:17 - 01:15:39:06
Speaker 2
To remember what dealership I think it's BMW. It's technically in Brentwood, but it's BMW of Nashville. They have an old do you want to talk about this? This was like the perfect for me. But it was I think I like a 75, maybe 77 Bronco all restored to brand new. And it was gorgeous. The green paint and all that.

01:15:39:06 - 01:15:39:13
Speaker 2
Oh.

01:15:39:13 - 01:15:40:08
Speaker 3
Whoa, oh.

01:15:40:08 - 01:15:49:23
Speaker 2
Just jaw drop here that they wanted like 160,000 for it. But yeah like that, that if you could take an old pickup from that era and make it look brand new again, that would be my.

01:15:49:25 - 01:15:51:10
Speaker 3
Yeah, I see the one about that restore.

01:15:51:10 - 01:16:12:26
Speaker 1
Mostly of the 50s with the round. Yeah. You know, that's kind of cool looking the body on it. And but we, we picked up the Explorer Sport track not knowing that we would need a bigger bed. Yeah, thick to haul things. And so I drive down to the dump and litter the highway with.

01:16:12:28 - 01:16:19:12
Speaker 3
Have to go back and I'm. I'm gonna get run. Over all those years I jogged on highway one. No, again. Never got hit. I went to get hit.

01:16:19:12 - 01:16:23:15
Speaker 1
Picking up the crap that flies out of my my pickup truck.

01:16:23:17 - 01:16:24:20
Speaker 4
So, so funny.

01:16:24:21 - 01:16:26:26
Speaker 2
Where is it? Trash repo man when you need one?

01:16:26:28 - 01:16:27:27
Speaker 3
Absolutely.

01:16:27:29 - 01:16:46:07
Speaker 4
But I think the Cybertruck I've noticed when I talk to people about it, it's their opinion on Elon Musk shapes a lot of people how they feel about the Cybertruck. Like my husband in particular, Brandt can't stand Elon Musk. So anything Tesla, he's like, I don't understand why they do it. Oh wow. Okay.

01:16:46:10 - 01:16:49:15
Speaker 2
Let's see. I like Elon Musk, I like Teslas, I don't own one, but.

01:16:49:16 - 01:16:50:18
Speaker 4
I'm too absent minded.

01:16:50:18 - 01:16:52:16
Speaker 2
I just think that truck is ugly.

01:16:52:19 - 01:16:53:16
Speaker 3
Yeah, we have.

01:16:53:16 - 01:17:00:27
Speaker 1
A Tesla. We because we wanted to support the coal industry. So.

01:17:01:00 - 01:17:14:11
Speaker 3
I bought it because he, you know, I was telling the chair story, right? You told the chair story. And like, I'm driving around, she calls me, and, I listen to it, and then I go to Chaz's office. He takes me for a test drive.

01:17:14:11 - 01:17:15:19
Speaker 2
Yeah, it almost sold me.

01:17:15:23 - 01:17:16:20
Speaker 3
The next thing you know, I'm buying.

01:17:16:22 - 01:17:20:27
Speaker 2
I sign a plug. Anything. And besides, I never know. I may need. I may need gas to make a away, but.

01:17:20:27 - 01:17:21:27
Speaker 3
We have a gas car.

01:17:21:29 - 01:17:22:23
Speaker 2
Yeah, long as you go.

01:17:22:24 - 01:17:30:23
Speaker 4
I've driven one, and I could see if you had the money laying around. It would be so hard. But I don't like zero. I like your car in my car.

01:17:30:26 - 01:17:35:29
Speaker 2
And then all you have is just like a laptop sitting there. Now, I like that the car can fart.

01:17:36:01 - 01:17:40:11
Speaker 3
That. That was that was a high. That was my less high priority.

01:17:40:12 - 01:17:42:01
Speaker 2
They take that feature away by the way. And they.

01:17:42:01 - 01:17:42:10
Speaker 3
Have.

01:17:42:11 - 01:17:44:02
Speaker 2
Yeah. Oh my God. I just click it.

01:17:44:02 - 01:17:45:03
Speaker 3
On the letters item.

01:17:45:03 - 01:17:46:12
Speaker 2
The plan. Why are they.

01:17:46:12 - 01:17:48:14
Speaker 4
Turning it away? Did they give you a reason.

01:17:48:14 - 01:17:49:10
Speaker 3
Unless it doesn't.

01:17:49:10 - 01:17:52:13
Speaker 2
Think. Well I used something.

01:17:52:15 - 01:17:56:13
Speaker 3
If they may have to. She's she keeps whispering.

01:17:56:18 - 01:18:03:09
Speaker 2
Well I don't know if they. I don't know if they removed. Yeah. You could probably add the app but that was what telling me that. And then the.

01:18:03:11 - 01:18:06:28
Speaker 3
You got two crying kids in the backseat of the car, man. A car that farts.

01:18:07:00 - 01:18:08:04
Speaker 4
Oh, that's that's a winner.

01:18:08:04 - 01:18:09:05
Speaker 3
That's a pacifier.

01:18:09:05 - 01:18:10:14
Speaker 4
Every time, every.

01:18:10:14 - 01:18:10:24
Speaker 1
Time.

01:18:10:27 - 01:18:11:29
Speaker 3
I keep telling Tammy.

01:18:11:29 - 01:18:13:23
Speaker 1
For years farts is funny.

01:18:13:25 - 01:18:16:29
Speaker 2
You know, except for when it's your dog under the table or whatever.

01:18:17:04 - 01:18:20:18
Speaker 3
She never like the earnest movies. Remember the only she take your boy to see the earth.

01:18:20:18 - 01:18:21:13
Speaker 2
No, I did not.

01:18:21:15 - 01:18:23:11
Speaker 3
Oh, wait. But that's right. You were a good father.

01:18:23:12 - 01:18:24:23
Speaker 2
I didn't film that.

01:18:24:23 - 01:18:29:10
Speaker 3
Here it. Yeah. Montgomery bell. Yeah, yeah. Jim Varney.

01:18:29:13 - 01:18:31:21
Speaker 4
Or now we call him Dale Jones.

01:18:31:24 - 01:18:32:27
Speaker 3
That's right.

01:18:33:00 - 01:18:34:18
Speaker 4
You look like.

01:18:34:20 - 01:18:35:25
Speaker 3
They could be.

01:18:35:27 - 01:18:36:18
Speaker 4
Crazy.

01:18:36:20 - 01:18:40:24
Speaker 2
Yeah, I was gonna say, what if they change his name after death? But this is some. It looks like him then. Right?

01:18:40:26 - 01:18:42:07
Speaker 3
All right. So,

01:18:42:09 - 01:18:46:02
Speaker 2
Yeah. Do we just go till somebody passes out? How long do we go here?

01:18:46:03 - 01:18:46:23
Speaker 3
What do you usually.

01:18:46:23 - 01:18:48:20
Speaker 4
Until my legs give out.

01:18:48:23 - 01:18:50:09
Speaker 3
I was just looking for a way to tie.

01:18:50:09 - 01:18:52:22
Speaker 1
This all into a nice little ribbon. What do you got coming up?

01:18:52:28 - 01:18:56:17
Speaker 3
What charities area? This will probably.

01:18:56:19 - 01:19:00:15
Speaker 1
Air, you know, later than today. Oh, yeah.

01:19:00:18 - 01:19:02:23
Speaker 4
Yeah, the plane crash will be way in anyway.

01:19:02:25 - 01:19:06:08
Speaker 3
I know a little bit of trouble. This.

01:19:06:10 - 01:19:07:29
Speaker 2
There's the golf tournament.

01:19:07:29 - 01:19:08:10
Speaker 3
Through.

01:19:08:12 - 01:19:21:15
Speaker 2
Where? Yeah. And then they're going to have a fundraiser the Friday night before, great organization. You know, life is a journey, not a destination. So just on the air every morning, the stage. The show is growing market by.

01:19:21:15 - 01:19:22:23
Speaker 3
Market here in Tennessee.

01:19:22:26 - 01:19:25:17
Speaker 1
All I see. And then like you said, markets to market. Yeah.

01:19:25:17 - 01:19:40:16
Speaker 2
And then you go on the iHeartRadio app and just Google your morning show or Michael Dell Journal and you'll find it. And yeah, pick the city you want to listen to it in. But we just added, Detroit and Albuquerque, just last week and just excited about what God's doing. This is all him.

01:19:40:17 - 01:19:41:14
Speaker 3
Well, I'm so happy.

01:19:41:21 - 01:19:42:18
Speaker 2
Came out of nowhere.

01:19:42:19 - 01:19:46:07
Speaker 1
You know, when when we were on that golf course. I know that you're,

01:19:46:10 - 01:19:48:23
Speaker 3
Worried and,

01:19:48:25 - 01:20:01:28
Speaker 1
And then to get that call that you got picked up. Not only that, but the, the fact that the rest of the country is catching on to what we all knew here in Nashville for an hour. Thanks. How good you really are, what you do. He's one of the best, if not the best.

01:20:02:02 - 01:20:06:09
Speaker 4
And you're in great hands with Glenn Beck and all of them. That's you to.

01:20:06:09 - 01:20:07:28
Speaker 2
Keep us in business a while,

01:20:08:01 - 01:20:09:02
Speaker 4
Yeah.

01:20:09:04 - 01:20:10:13
Speaker 3
Well, just that. Yeah.

01:20:10:15 - 01:20:14:03
Speaker 1
He's the lead in the back. You know, he gets it running.

01:20:14:05 - 01:20:14:26
Speaker 4
Yeah.

01:20:14:28 - 01:20:18:23
Speaker 3
The cool thing is, because by the time 8:00.

01:20:18:23 - 01:20:22:04
Speaker 1
Hits, we're we're we're into our days. So what.

01:20:22:06 - 01:20:23:07
Speaker 3
We we get up.

01:20:23:07 - 01:20:27:20
Speaker 1
In the morning and we flip you on. Your Aunt Tammy wakes up at five, 530.

01:20:27:20 - 01:20:42:25
Speaker 2
So, yeah, I've noticed the West Coast people. That's crazy. They, like, in LA and San Francisco and Seattle, Portland, Sacramento, Phoenix. They're like, well, Phoenix is an hour closer, but these people are up at three in the morning. And I and I was fascinated.

01:20:42:25 - 01:20:44:28
Speaker 4
They have to get through traffic. Well no, no.

01:20:45:00 - 01:20:48:06
Speaker 2
Yeah. It's that they do business with the East Coast. So they have to.

01:20:48:12 - 01:20:48:24
Speaker 3
Figure.

01:20:48:24 - 01:20:49:14
Speaker 1
Out Bellevue.

01:20:49:14 - 01:20:59:18
Speaker 2
They know they are the most inner. I think there are more people up three, 4:00 in the morning on the West Coast than up. I think a lot of people in Nashville are still asleep.

01:20:59:25 - 01:21:01:13
Speaker 3
I might've done if I lived out there.

01:21:01:13 - 01:21:04:09
Speaker 1
I wouldn't sleep well either way.

01:21:04:11 - 01:21:05:11
Speaker 2
There's a lot going on.

01:21:05:11 - 01:21:12:04
Speaker 4
Yeah, my dad had to be awake at six, 2 a.m. every day. He left the house to fight traffic to get to Century City. Wow.

01:21:12:04 - 01:21:13:26
Speaker 2
That early? Yeah. Well, then there's that, too.

01:21:13:27 - 01:21:16:06
Speaker 4
He'd leave work it to get home at six.

01:21:16:08 - 01:21:17:00
Speaker 2
What did he do?

01:21:17:01 - 01:21:23:13
Speaker 4
It was crazy. He was a scenic artist for 20th Century Fox. New in the movie business? Yeah, it's a nice.

01:21:23:13 - 01:21:25:01
Speaker 2
Guy, said Century City. He was probably.

01:21:25:01 - 01:21:29:14
Speaker 1
That explains your ability to drive. We're. We're gonna interview each other someday.

01:21:29:15 - 01:21:32:05
Speaker 4
We don't. Who are you again? Hi, I'm Carolyn, I'm Jeff.

01:21:32:05 - 01:21:33:29
Speaker 1
Nice to meet you. Yes.

01:21:34:01 - 01:21:37:01
Speaker 2
Anyway, my I'm Michael eyebrows.

01:21:37:04 - 01:21:39:04
Speaker 4
Michael. Good looking eyebrows.

01:21:39:04 - 01:21:39:21
Speaker 3
Well, that'll be a.

01:21:39:21 - 01:21:42:04
Speaker 1
Hashtag for this one. Hashtag eyebrows.

01:21:42:05 - 01:21:45:16
Speaker 3
Hashtag I will will grab those in. And the Bulldogs.

01:21:45:16 - 01:21:48:03
Speaker 1
And the lizards and the Cybertruck's.

01:21:48:06 - 01:21:51:02
Speaker 2
And sadly, I have never done stand up comedy again.

01:21:51:05 - 01:21:52:12
Speaker 3
Well, yeah, I'm working.

01:21:52:12 - 01:21:53:26
Speaker 1
The I don't. Anyway, we'll talk more if.

01:21:53:26 - 01:21:55:12
Speaker 4
You want to go to the Bahamas.

01:21:55:14 - 01:21:56:06
Speaker 1
Yeah.

01:21:56:08 - 01:21:58:27
Speaker 3
Anyway, thank you for last time.

01:21:58:27 - 01:22:00:17
Speaker 2
I had a really good set.

01:22:00:20 - 01:22:04:16
Speaker 3
If you hung with us this long. Thank you.

01:22:04:16 - 01:22:05:08
Speaker 4
And get a life.

01:22:05:14 - 01:22:08:17
Speaker 3
Get a good, hit the subscribe button.

01:22:08:17 - 01:22:23:04
Speaker 1
It's going to be up there. Down there, somewhere around. And we really only live by your shares. If you really like what you see, like what you hear, share it with the people you love. And if you don't like what you see or hear, share it with the people you really don't like. We don't care. We just want bodies and ears.

01:22:23:04 - 01:22:26:00
Speaker 3
Right, Michael? By borders. That's all in on.

01:22:26:00 - 01:22:26:25
Speaker 2
The air and spots are.

01:22:26:25 - 01:22:30:17
Speaker 3
Clear. That's it baby. Thank you again and we'll see you next week.

01:22:30:22 - 01:22:34:06
Speaker 4
God bless you.

01:22:34:08 - 01:22:35:25
Speaker 2
Did you fall asleep over there?